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re: Do not understand notion Howard left bc of Daniels
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:19 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:19 pm to The Pirate King
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Basically the coaches picked one year of Daniels over 2-3 years of Howard.
1 more year of Daniels instead of 1 more year of Howard
Howard wasn't staying at LSU past 2023 with Nuss around
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:23 pm to Sp0728
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Nuss committed to staying. Howard got scared.
This. 100%.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 1:49 pm to Goldrush25
Listen to coaches and people who have access to LSU football. That is what BK stated.
Thanks for downvoting something truthful.
Thanks for downvoting something truthful.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:07 pm to White Tiger
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He is not a QB
Really? Your years of not breaking down film and TV broadcast orin stadium viewing(even worse because you don't get replay) led you to saying JD isn't a qb? Brian Kelly disagrees.
here is a link where people get paid to give their draft projections. they have JD as a 2nd rd qb.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:23 pm to The Pirate King
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Howard was never going to stay if the other two did. The natural progression was Daniels leaving this year and Howard backing up Nuss in 23.
Basically the coaches picked one year of Daniels over 2-3 years of Howard.
And what are we losing exactly? I doubt anyone's losing much sleep over a QB that couldn't even give the team two years. Everything had to line up immediately for him or he was out. Good luck to him but LSU will be fine.
For all we know JD could've left, he could battled with Nuss for QB1, lost then still transferred. What makes anyone think he would've stuck around if he lost out to Nuss? Then we would've been really screwed.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:25 pm to GeauxTigers1410
Logic thinking isn’t one of your strengths
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:46 pm to BigNastyTiger417
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Listen to coaches and people who have access to LSU football. That is what BK stated.
Link?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:51 pm to Metaloctopus
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To this point, I will ask again: If Howard saw Nuss as ultimately being the guy he couldn't beat out, then why would he have even committed here?
I answered you on this point and you just ignored it. I’ll turn it around as I did in my prior response. If he still thought he could beat out Nuss, why did he not at least battle it out in Spring to earn QB2 reps then take over in 2024?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 5:00 pm to MikeTheTiger71
It probably had as much to do with Denbrock returning as anything.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Ian Book And Jack Coan were both prostyle qbs
lulz
Jack Coan was a one off. He spent his entire career learing the QB position at Wisc, before transferring to ND
Ian Book is exactly the type of QB that BK wants. He started for 3 years for Kelly. His last 2 years he averaged 240 pass completions, and 120 rushes. Thats a 2 to 1 ratio. The exact opposite of pro style
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:14 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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I answered you on this point and you just ignored it. I’ll turn it around as I did in my prior response.
First of all, don't act so offended that I didn't respond to your post. I was not replying to you, I was replying to someone else. Did you not notice that? Secondly, your first response was not an "answer", it was just your opinion. I noted it, and didn't find it necessary to respond to it. The reason being that this entire discussion is about the OP wondering why people think Daniels returning had anything to with Howard's decision. My response was explaining why that conclusion would be drawn. You are presenting an entirely different scenario, of which has already been stated by those who don't think his decision had anything to do with Daniels.
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If he still thought he could beat out Nuss, why did he not at least battle it out in Spring to earn QB2 reps then take over in 2024?
Because Daniels is returning. Did you ignore that? I already addressed this. Without Daniels returning, he may have thought that he could beat out Nuss, but at worst be the backup and get those reps. But with Daniels returning, there was virtually no chance of starting, and the potential of running the scout team again as the 3rd string.
This is why I didn't respond to you before. You pass over key points of my post, I don't feel obligated to acknowledge your response.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:23 pm to GeauxTigers1410
In a post months ago I pointed out why Howard could possibly be leaving and was pilloried for even thinking such a thought, how dare you? He’s an LSU boy, through and through. My thinking was, Hell, who want’s to ride the pine for another season, and maybe for 3 more years, when you ‘think’ you are a starter.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:39 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:Daniels returning had zero to do with it. I don't see how you people don't understand this.
Because Daniels is returning. Did you ignore that? I already addressed this. Without Daniels returning, he may have thought that he could beat out Nuss, but at worst be the backup and get those reps. But with Daniels returning, there was virtually no chance of starting, and the potential of running the scout team again as the 3rd string.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 7:48 pm to GeauxTigers1410
It wasn’t because of Daniels, it was Kelly has given the starting QB position to the anointed one and Howard knew he wouldn’t get a fair shot at being the starting QB.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:09 pm to AlxTgr
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Daniels returning had zero to do with it. I don't see how you people don't understand this
I've already explained to you my perspective. Doesn't seem like you've given it an ounce of consideration, if you've even read it at all. There is a very good chance Daniels' return had everything to do with it.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:22 pm to Metaloctopus
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I've already explained to you my perspective. Doesn't seem like you've given it an ounce of consideration, if you've even read it at all. There is a very good chance Daniels' return had everything to do with it.
Maybe another angle:
If you think WH only cared about 2nd team Reps, then yes, Daniels staying would hinder that for another year.
If you think WH is focused more on starting, that has nothing to do with Daniels because he would have had to beat out Nuss for that to happen or if Nuss got injured or something.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:33 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:I don't recall reading it.
I've already explained to you my perspective. Doesn't seem like you've given it an ounce of consideration
quote:That makes zero sense. I argue losing points for a living. I can't argue that one. There isn't an argument.
There is a very good chance Daniels' return had everything to do with it.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:46 pm to RobbBobb
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Ian Book is exactly the type of QB that BK wants. He started for 3 years for Kelly. His last 2 years he averaged 240 pass completions, and 120 rushes. Thats a 2 to 1 ratio. The exact opposite of pro style
You have no idea what you're talking about.
People that get paid to evaluate prostyle vs dual threat say he was a prostyle. Sorry if I take their opinion over the opinion of someone who thought JLee was a great qb.
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Jack Coan was a one off. He spent his entire career learing the QB position at Wisc
What does that have to do with Brian Kelly choosing that to be his starter? Maybe just try to keep up.
For the record Ian Book is all over the passing records at notre dame. At least try to look shite up before posting.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 1/17/23 at 10:22 pm to GeauxTigers1410
Howard is confused and making the wrong decision. If he really loves LSU like he says, then stay and prove to everyone that you are great. Remember what happened to the last great Louisiana quarterback that rejected LSU for Ole Piss....he ended up at Michigan and never really did anything great.
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