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re: Did LSU’s secondary step up, or did Daniels take a step back?

Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Stop trying to argue the Nuss vs Daniels shite, it’s tiring

They both have their pros and cons



+1
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3064 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:31 pm to
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It’s a total double standard that will never be equally applied the other way.


Actually, the response is to the double standard coming from the other direction.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3064 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:36 pm to
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believe what? WGAF? big plays are big plays and it is great sounds like you have an agenda before this season even starts sad


Or those emphasizing Nuss’ yardage are the ones with an agenda. The big play was great to see. It’s great knowing LSU has two solid options at QB. Let’s just not pretend there isn’t a sizable faction of posters here trying to spin everything to tout Nuss as a better option than Daniels.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:40 pm to
So many high rated WR’s. It’s time for them all to step up.
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2160 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:51 pm to
I don’t know why we cannot just support our qb no matter who is starting. That’s what our qbs do for each other.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:55 pm to
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I don’t know why we cannot just support our qb no matter who is starting. That’s what our qbs do for each other.



I said the same thing. It’s mind boggling.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21440 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 6:56 pm to
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Or those emphasizing Nuss’ yardage are the ones with an agenda. The big play was great to see. It’s great knowing LSU has two solid options at QB. Let’s just not pretend there isn’t a sizable faction of posters here trying to spin everything to tout Nuss as a better option than Daniels.


Exactly. You see them pounding their chest, and questioning Daniels simply because a RB housed a swing pass.

And I absolutely love Nuss.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8344 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:06 pm to
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Or maybe they were working on something. Relax.

I think this is likely. Moscona said none of the 3 quarterbacks completed a pass that went over 10 yards in the air. That makes me think play calling had something to do with the average numbers
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12125 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:11 pm to
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75 of those yards came from a a screen


It doesn't count then, similar to Daniels passes that were dropped.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21440 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:12 pm to
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It doesn't count then, similar to Daniels passes that were dropped


Everything counts, I don't think anybody is saying it doesn't. But the context is key. Those stats are pretty meaningless, unless they straight up played a legit game.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7967 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:14 pm to
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JD ain’t making the jump people are predicting.
I don't think that's entirely true. A fair portion of his issues seem to be mental (risk aversion). That is the type of thing that can change.

I suspect that much like last year, JD will run hot and cold. On good days he's a terror, hitting his passes and driving the defense crazy with his scrambling. Hopefully his bad days won't be as horrific this year. And if he is having that bad day, I think BK has enough confidence in Nuss to pull the trigger and put him it. Nuss has the skills to open shite up, but there's still concern that he will do something too risky.

Normally a two-quarterback system is a bad idea, but with these two it might make some sense because the skill set is so different. Regardless, I'm sure we'll see a lot of both of them. I'm sure that BK wants to make sure both are getting playing time.

JD makes the offense move steadily and doesn't create turnovers. So it makes sense to have him in early and start. However as we've seen, on a bad day the offense stalls too much. Nuss, on the other hand, can move us downfield fast with that arm, but he might still be a bit turnover prone. That makes him high risk and high return. It would make a lot of sense to bring him in later in the game to catch up on the scoreboard when we are down. The risk of an interception isn't as significant if you are going to lose the game anyway. May as well take your shots.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:19 pm to
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JD will run hot and cold. On good days he's a terror, hitting his passes and driving the defense crazy with his scrambling. Hopefully his bad days won't be as horrific this year.


This was absolutely true about Daniels last year, how much has changed? LSU fans will find out
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:22 pm to
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so 4/7 for 36 w/o the screen


That’s solid, but also very similar to Daniels’ stat line.

Both QBs reportedly made some good intermediate to deep throws during drills. Just let it play out.
Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
5538 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:23 pm to
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Jayden Daniels 6/11 57 yards 1 TD


Oooffff
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54646 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:24 pm to
Another dumb thread by this retard
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48410 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:25 pm to
That’s a deflection and has nothing to do with my post.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 7:26 pm
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2157 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:34 pm to
8/11 if passes were not dropped
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:58 pm to
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8/11 if passes were not dropped


So Daniels could be losing confidence because of this?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:06 pm to
Why are you the way you are? What makes you think he’s “losing confidence?” Honestly.

This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:15 pm to
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Why are you the way you are?


Why ask why? Who would you enjoy ranting about then?
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