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re: Did LSU’s secondary step up, or did Daniels take a step back?

Posted on 8/20/23 at 3:21 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 3:21 am to
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none of us want to see a stat line like Daniels had today. And none of us want to see LSU fail.





You're reading way too much into a scrimmage. A scrimmage. You're acting like they just played an SEC opponent and based on the stats, of a scrimmage, the season is bleak.

Step away from the panic button. Goodness.

I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but to say this is ridiculous.

Come on, man.

This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 3:25 am
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 3:31 am to
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Now you are posting crap right now just to stir up shite


I’m not the reason someone was 6/11 for 57 yards passing in a scrimmage.
I’m not the reason someone dropped two of his passes.

I’m not the reason someone listed LSU’s starting QB’s stat at the very bottom hoping that it wouldn’t stand out.

I’m not the person responsible for posting Daniels stats and forgetting to include context to explain it.

I’m not the person responsible for allowing such people at LSU’s scrimmage who were willing to leak such negative info but not offer any explanation.

TTT - Is there anything else that you wish to blame me for inciting?

This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 4:43 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26762 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:14 am to
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All I want is a fair open competition. If Daniels wins it then I have zero issue - what bothers me is holding he and Nuss to different standards instead of a level playing field.


The competition was last year and Daniels won, get over it. This year all you hear in fall reports is is "Nuss made a beautiful pass, but he also threw an int. Nuss made a nice deep pass, but he also sailed several passes".

I follow all reports so I can get an accurate assessment. EVERYBODY IS SAYING DANIELS IS THE GUY. EVERYBODY!!!. Everybody is saying it's pretty freaking clear while at the same time telling you Nuss is still making those same blunders but also throwing good looking passes.

Many of you idiots would rather LSU go 7-5 this year to see an erratic Nuss throw for 4000 with 35 TDs to 20 ints, than to see Daniels with all the calm and confidence of a seasoned vet, guide LSU to a 10-2 or better record.

This nonsense is only coming from LSU fans, ONLY LSU fans. Media, local and national, oddsmakers, SEC fans, CFB fans in general, all see Daniels as a top 10 QB, a heisman contender. Only some LSU fans have this insanely stupid Nuss agenda because they care more about passing the ball than winning the game.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279459 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:11 am to
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All I want is a fair open competition



newsflash; there is no competition
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:41 pm to
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All I want is a fair open competition. If Daniels wins it then I have zero issue - what bothers me is holding he and Nuss to different standards instead of a level playing field.


You aren’t at practice and have no fricking idea if this is true or not. It’s far more likely just your wishcasting.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:59 pm to
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quote: All I want is a fair open competition

newsflash; there is no competition


Both of LSU’s QB’s believe there is, and they both prefer it that way. And that’s what makes them both special.

This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Golfnerd
Left rough
Member since Aug 2022
36 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:33 pm to
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JD ain’t making the jump people are predicting.

He’s a 5th year guy…. We’ve seen his ceiling.


Several years ago we had a transfer from Ohio State who had a pretty good year as a 5th year senior, so maybe they don't all reach their ceiling after year 4.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12124 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:55 pm to
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Geez dude me and you could throw a decent screen pass. I love Nuss but let’s don’t act like he did something amazing that Daniels couldn’t do here.




Didn't Kelly express his displeasure with the QBs last season that couldn't lead a receiver downfield. They ran comeback routes because the QB was not proficient in hitting the receiver going toward the goal line. Who was our QB last season?
whether Daniels has mastered the required skills is unknown. We will have the answer to that question two weeks from this hour.
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
761 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:58 pm to
Neither receivers had a bad day
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13078 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:30 pm to
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All I want is a fair open competition. If Daniels wins it then I have zero issue - what bothers me is holding he and Nuss to different standards instead of a level playing field.



Anyone doing that here is irrelevant. No one here decides who plays.

Both QBs have been given complete equal opportunity and have both stated as such and are happy with the current situation.

No one here has an opinion that matters.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13078 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:33 pm to
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Problem is twofold, none of us want to see a stat line like Daniels had today. And none of us want to see LSU fail.


So the same stat line Nuss had minuse the screen pass that the RB did all the work for? Those numbers? Damn…. Sounds like we are back to the Les Miles “no QB” years.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13078 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:36 pm to
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You don’t declare a starter before the players have even competent for the spot in spring and fall.



Except every coach does this when they have a returning starter. They are ALWAYS “the starter to beat out”. Not sure why people are complaining since Nuss himself has said he’s happy with the situation
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 10:55 pm to
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Problem is twofold, none of us want to see a stat line like Daniels had today. And none of us want to see LSU fail.

So the same stat line Nuss had minuse the screen pass that the RB did all the work for? Those numbers? Damn…. Sounds like we are back to the Les Miles “no QB” years.


Both LSU QB’s struggled Saturday, I have no horse in this race, but they’re too talented to have both struggle, LSU defense is coming around.
This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 11:33 pm
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2374 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:13 pm to
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JD ain’t making the jump people are predicting. He’s a 5th year guy…. We’ve seen his ceiling.

There’s a large contingent of the fan base that refuses to acknowledge theses facts. They continue to compare him to Burrow’s 2019 jump in production. Only problem is that was only Burrow’s 2nd year as a D1 starter, this will be Daniel’s 5th.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2374 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:42 pm to
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All I want is a fair open competition. If Daniels wins it then I have zero issue - what bothers me is holding he and Nuss to different standards instead of a level playing field.

That was the Les Miles approach with QB’s. Miles always seemed to have a favorite. Either one could start at several SEC schools, let’s just have fair open competition.
Posted by HoldThatTiger33
Member since Aug 2023
351 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 12:30 am to
I mean moving Sage Ryan to boundary corner two weeks out is telling. Fellas just close your eyes and bite down when Travis steps back to throw lol
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:01 am to
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So the same stat line Nuss had minuse the screen pass that the RB did all the work for? Those numbers? Damn…. Sounds like we are back to the Les Miles “no QB” years.


Bottom line is, LSU defense is improving because neither QB killed it out there.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 7:24 am to
This is why I hate practice stats and also why Les used to just make them up.

One side of the ball can’t do well without the other side doing bad and LSU fans love to latch on to the side that does bad and question everything.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:01 am to
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This is why I hate practice stats and also why Les used to just make them up. One side of the ball can’t do well without the other side doing bad and LSU fans love to latch on to the side that does bad and question everything.


Well both QB’s struggled passing, so either LSU’s secondary is stepping up or both of LSU’s QB’s sucked. And we both know the answer to that.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13078 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:08 am to
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Bottom line is, LSU defense is improving because neither QB killed it out there.



You know this from a scrimmage how?
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