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re: Derek Curiel isn’t the SEC Freshman of the Year
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:35 pm to Phillytiger9
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:35 pm to Phillytiger9
quote:
Derek Curiel isn’t the SEC Freshman of the Year
More importantly, how was Root 1st team SP
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:36 pm to lsufball19
His SEC stats are even crazier.
SEC Only:
16 appearances - 2 wins, 11 saves
1.59 ERA
0.85 WHIP
28.1 IP - 48K/8BB
.160 BAA
For example, think about how valuable Cowan was to LSU and compare their numbers:
14 appearances - 1 win, 3 losses, 5 saves
2.93 ERA
1.19 WHIP
30.2 IP - 34K/8BB
.241 BAA
SEC Only:
16 appearances - 2 wins, 11 saves
1.59 ERA
0.85 WHIP
28.1 IP - 48K/8BB
.160 BAA
For example, think about how valuable Cowan was to LSU and compare their numbers:
14 appearances - 1 win, 3 losses, 5 saves
2.93 ERA
1.19 WHIP
30.2 IP - 34K/8BB
.241 BAA
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:40 pm to Phillytiger9
This one i get...
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:43 pm to LSBoosie
quote:
His SEC stats are eveN crazier.
SEC Only:
16 appearances - 2 wins, 11 saves
1.59 ERA
0.85 WHIP
28.1 IP - 48K/8BB
.160 BAA
This is what I was referring to when I said his value to Texas was more than Curiel's value to LSU.
I don't know what he did in the non-conference. I know the awards aren't done this way, but they should be based on conference only.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:47 pm to CLTiger
quote:
As another poster above mentioned hopefully this gives him a chip on his shoulder and he mashes during the postseason.
As long as the chip is on the shoulder that isn't hurt.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 3:55 pm to Phillytiger9
Well, he did kinda slump at the plate in SEC.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:03 pm to Phillytiger9
Kid from auburn really deserved it more than both of them
Fun fact. Dylan crews wasn’t sec freshman of the year either….
Fun fact. Dylan crews wasn’t sec freshman of the year either….
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:06 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:
Volantis value relative to Texas probably exceeded Curiel's value relative to LSU.
That's interesting. Why do you say that? Volantis pitched in the equivalent of a little over 4 games. Curiel played in 55. Volantis was really good, but there wasn't much of him in the season relatively speaking.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:08 pm to Phillytiger9
I didn't think my resentment for Texas could grow to this extent within just a year of them joining the conference.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:09 pm to Phillytiger9
Chris Rembert of Auburn has a better argument if going with position players.
All games
.355/ .485/ .590
OPS of 1.075
40 RBI
SEC games only
.376/ .485/ .615
OPS of 1.100
22 RBI
Curiel was
All games
.344/ .465/ .522
OPS of 0.987
45 RBI
SEC games only
.296/ .385/ .440
OPS of .825
25 RBI
Being objective, no one else on any team was even close to Rembert.
All games
.355/ .485/ .590
OPS of 1.075
40 RBI
SEC games only
.376/ .485/ .615
OPS of 1.100
22 RBI
Curiel was
All games
.344/ .465/ .522
OPS of 0.987
45 RBI
SEC games only
.296/ .385/ .440
OPS of .825
25 RBI
Being objective, no one else on any team was even close to Rembert.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:14 pm to ProjectP2294
Kid pitched like 43 innings . Kid is good but to beat out everyday l player that has preformed like DC has is nuts. SEC still sucking Longhorn penis. 
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:27 pm to lsufball19
quote:
the same way Kevin Kopps won the Golden Spikes
He logged about 40 more innings than Volantis and had 12 wins to go with his 11 saves. It was impressive.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:29 pm to ell_13
quote:
But yes, they need player vs pitcher awards.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:31 pm to Phillytiger9
German
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:34 pm to lsufball19
quote:
in 43.1 IP
Versus ~270 I
I don’t see how one can compare a sustained high-level workflow over six times more playing time.
But it is what it is
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:38 pm to Phillytiger9
Texas dropped a few bags ??????
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:39 pm to lsufball19
quote:
Because Volantis was one of the best pitchers in the SEC. 1.66 ERA in 43.1 IP with 64Ks and only 11 BBs.
Dang. LSU freshman Schmidt had 20 walks in 30 innings. Could’ve been him.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:42 pm to therick711
quote:
That's interesting. Why do you say that? Volantis pitched in the equivalent of a little over 4 games. Curiel played in 55. Volantis was really good, but there wasn't much of him in the season relatively speaking.
Volantis pitched in 16 of their 30 SEC games. That's an absurd number for a relief pitcher, much less a freshman relief pitcher. And to have a 1.59 ERA and .160 OppBA is even more absurd given that volume.
quote:
Volantis pitched in the equivalent of a little over 4 games
So if Curiel doesn't have a ball hit to him or doesn't get an AB in an inning, can we say he didn't play that inning? A pitcher literally takes part in every single pitch while he's on the mound. A left fielder doesn't. A hitter takes part in 1/9 of the offense while in the game. A pitcher takes part in 100% of the "defense" while in a game.
This wasn't even close to the biggest hack job on the postseason awards. Root getting 1st Team over Eyanson was way worse.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 5:48 pm to lsufball19
You can say whatever it is you want about it. He had 260 PAs in 55 games, batting first in virtually all of them to boot. That's pretty maxed out in terms of playing time. Volantis can be justified in several ways, comparative usage is not even close.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:59 pm to Phillytiger9
12 saves, 4-0 record as a freshman. Can't be mad about that.
LSU had a combined 13 saves as a team. Replace a few of those blown games with saves and LSU wins the SEC.
LSU had a combined 13 saves as a team. Replace a few of those blown games with saves and LSU wins the SEC.
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