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Dave Bartoo had LSU defense ranked super low from the start…

Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2142 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:26 pm
LINK

Our defensive support staff and defensive coaches were rated at the bottom of the FBS before the season began.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted by BigWinnie
Member since Nov 2021
194 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:29 pm to
Coaching is bad and it doesn't help we lost like 8 starters from last year
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
749 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:54 pm to
LSU should put this guy on retainer just to ensure we don’t accidentally hire the equivalent of Alex Grinch again.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
9237 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:55 pm to
I believe if we had Greg Brooks we at least beat Ole Miss & are in a NY6 bowl
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11975 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:07 pm to
You don't need to be educated to know our defense is terrible.
Watch the games or look at the stats.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16412 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:37 pm to
Interesting approach.

Wonder how their model gets their inputs and wonder if they grade themselves.

Our entire defensive train wreck is on the desk of CBK. No way he should be making these rookie mistakes after 30+ years as HC.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2664 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:21 am to
Please forward this link and this man's contact information to Brian Kelly.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8995 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:27 am to
Posted by White Raj
Member since Oct 2021
325 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:31 am to
Yes and BJ is one of the top rated rookies this year.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16412 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:39 am to
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I believe if we had Greg Brooks we at least beat Ole Miss & are in a NY6 bowl


Agreed. And TBH, we probably be Bama also. So does Bartoo's model account for injuries and if so, how so?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23015 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:50 am to
I asked the board preseason, “can anyone explain to me how the defense isn’t going to suck?”

Downvoted to hell of course.

I never imagined they’d be this bad though.
Posted by toughcrittercrumb
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
2142 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:32 am to
They are worse than Pelini’s group. It’s a combination of bad coaching and talent but I think the coaching is much much worse than the talent level.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10899 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:44 pm to
Compare and Contrast.......

Lou "Drop Linebacker/Complete Linebacking/It will take 3 years to install my Defense" Tepper.

Bo Peep Pelini 2.0.

Matt Pennywise the House clown.

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20364 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Compare and Contrast.......

Lou "Drop Linebacker/Complete Linebacking/It will take 3 years to install my Defense" Tepper.
Profoundly arrogant, and tried to run a system that required a unicorn. His Drop Linebacker was too far off the line to be effective against the run, and too big/slow to act as a nickel in coverage. Result was that we went 10 against 11 on every down.
quote:

Bo Peep Pelini 2.0.
In a bad situation. Came in to replace the previous guy (Aranda), very VERY limited preseason time to implement the new system compared to most years, and the HC (Orgeron) insisted we not run the system most suited to the personnel on the team- to prove Aranda wasn't the reason for success. And then his All American corner decided to unofficially opt out, like a few others on that team
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Matt Pennywise the House clown.
Just, exposed. Lost almost the entire patchwork portal secondary he had in 2022, and this year's patchwork portal secondary didn't pan out. Dude from Syracuse could run defense but physically couldn't cover big WRs, it was like watching a point guard try to guard Shaq in the post.
Dude from Southeastern turned out to not be a P5 corner, got toasted.
No sophomores stepped up from last year (were there even any?), and the freshmen weren't ready to play.
Tried to move the freshman All American pass rushing LB to MLB in hopes he could cement the D, but all it did was remove him from the game. I think he's JUST an edge rusher, nothing more. Definitely not the next Devin White.
D Line coach went out, and the D Line never materialized. The transfer LB from Oregon State didn't perform as hoped for.

Of the 3, I pity Pelini the most, because he walked into a shitshow. I despise Tepper because it didn't have to be that way, he did it to us. House basically doesn't have the talent to play SEC defense right now, and there's no hiding it.
Posted by Ready2Geaux
Member since Sep 2023
226 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:27 am to
thanks 4 linking 2 the interview - it was fascinating

hope someone connects Bartoo and LSU so CBK has the analytics 2 hire better D coaches right after the season ends
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4909 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:48 am to
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House basically doesn't have the talent to play SEC defense right now, and there's no hiding it.


Good post, but House hasn't gotten the defense to do the basic stuff correct. I dont know what they teach at practice but it's not defense 101.

Tackling has been atrocious. Defensive line and linebackers have mostly not been in the correct gaps. The whole damn team takes bad angles to the ball. The defense doesn't get lined up in time several times a game. Linebackers have been some of the worst I can remember to play for LSU. They can't cover and they can't stop the run.

I believe this guys analysis. House has been exposed as a bad coach and his staffs recruiting isnt great. Kelly is responsible for hiring him so it falls to his desk to fix. He better not retain House. And he should be calling this guy to help pick the next coach.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 7:51 am
Posted by TC Kidd
Member since Nov 2023
776 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 3:37 am to
quote:

believe if we had Greg Brooks we at least beat Ole Miss & are in a NY6 bowl

Lol
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27200 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 3:44 am to
Kelly is an idiot for who he hired on the defensive staff.



And then he ran Cain out of town.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14449 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 4:03 am to
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Our entire defensive train wreck is on the desk of CBK. No way he should be making these rookie mistakes after 30+ years as HC.


I dont believe this. Kelly was hired late and most staff's were already in place. He came over with no staff much like Saban when he left Michigan state. I believe he was just looking to put a staff together with some sec connections to start rebuilding a decimated roster. Now is time for him to really evaluate and make changes to the defensive staff.

He now has a good sample size to see who on the coaching staff needs to be replaced. I do believe House should be the first cut due to his lack of adjustments made in games and his lack of recruiting ability. His defensive replacement needs to be a home run because now Kelly will be under the microscope in year 3 going forward.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11975 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 7:11 am to
Do you remember how Muschamp, a young LB Coach, became DC.
Saban didn't need half a season to know something was broken and needed repair.
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