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re: Daniels is not a bad QB

Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:24 pm to
Mb wasn’t mb anymore
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7553 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:25 pm to
"He made some strides this weekend in regards to letting it fly a bit"

I don't know what it looked like on TV, but this was very apparent watching live. I was very glad to see him make progress on at least that aspect of his game.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30893 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:27 pm to
Oh there was zero doubt that he trusted the receiver more and let it go into tight coverage more. People are more frustrated with the depth of the routes. They were all short and towards the sidelines
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38553 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:31 pm to
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will probably be our starter next year


Nope.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:47 pm to
I was thinking about Daniels while watching the Bengals/Ravens game last night.

He certainly has wheels and can get out of trouble or setup designed runs, just like Lamar, but he’s not nearly the quarterback that LJ is to play that type of style. Daniels isn’t nearly as accurate as top end QBs, his mechanics are off (getting the ball out quickly especially), his field vision and his decision making are just poor. I think much of this you can actually work around with better scheming, which is another area of concern with the offense I won’t get into.

The #1 thing for me though is it seems Daniels is too afraid to make mistakes to take risks so we have no downfield threat. Whether that’s in the middle or over the top, it’s non existant in our offense. Even if you miss them, like Lamar did a few of last night when his touch was off, the ability to throw the ball 50+ yards downfield at least keeps the defense honest and can open up the run lanes. This element is completely missing with JD and our offense as a whole.

LSU fans are all too familiar with “bad QB” play so we know it when we see it. The only truly good ones the last 15 years have been Burrow and Mett. The rest were all mediocre to bad. Daniels isn’t the worst among those, but that also doesn’t make him a good QB either.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19354 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:49 pm to
I think Denbrock's playcalling is a little dated, but he also has to work with what he's got. I agree with your point. If we could ever get solid yardage on first down, we could throw it downfield on 2nd and short. I'm just not really a fan of the out routes and whatnot.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong.. Isn't Boutte more of a home run threat? I don't remember him ever being particularly solid at underneath stuff - so maybe that has been another reason for his lack of touches.

I also wish QBs in general in college would go under center more.. but I think that ship has sailed
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58883 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:18 pm to
By your logic Jimbo Fisher or any highly paid coach has never made a bad decision because they’re paid a lot of money.
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
2360 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:33 pm to
He's an average QB. Elite athlete. Really good rb.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:04 pm to
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Do all of you honestly believe Daniels is really that bad?


He is playing that bad right now. It almost looks like he has a mental block that will not let him release the ball downfield.

Another possible problem is Daniels came from ASU and Denbrock came from Cinncy so JD is still learning Denbrocks system that is not firmly entrenched. We saw Burrow have pedestrian yr his first yr here and then when the right offense presented itself he was much better and had full trust of the coaches to run whatever.

Daniels does not have the trust of these coaches to run a play without "check with me"
Posted by Geauxtigersgeaux12
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
2421 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:06 pm to
A lot of fans won’t accept any QB not as good as 2019 Joe Burrow. shite they wouldn’t even accept a 2018 Joe Burrow at this point. It’s ridiculous. Let’s have realistic expectations.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15182 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Daniels is a good athlete playing QB. He's been starting for 4 years. He's not going to all of the sudden start being a good passer.


Kinda of an issue when your in the SEC.We wont win another SEC game with Daniels at QB. Not saying Nuss is the answer but just stating facts.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39009 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:28 pm to
95% of you are quick to point the finger at JDaniels. Do you seriously not see our OL getting blown backward? Do you not see receivers dropping balls and getting zero seperation?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13237 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:42 pm to
Daniels will erase the Burrow threshold.
The bar will be pretty low for the new QB, next season.
In addition the expectations for this staff will also be lowered tremendously.
You don't get much for twenty million anymore,
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2669 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:44 pm to
It is definitely an issue with offensive philosophy but JD is what we need right now with this oline. He had 180 yds passing in the first half. He had dropped balls and ZERO running game. People need to chill. Let BK get his Oline right, which should be there in the next 2 years and then you will see championship offense.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11840 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:46 pm to
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CBK gets paid $10 million/year and he has made it very clear that he is living and dying with Daniels as his signal caller.


Kelly’s QBs at Notre Dame underperformed for the most part. Basically one developed in over a decade there and he wasn’t even really that great.

Kelly simply isn’t a QB guru and that is okay. He just needs to hire one and he didn’t do that.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2603 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 3:47 pm to
Yes, he's that bad.
Posted by JohnDeer
Phoenix
Member since Oct 2022
325 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:04 pm to
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By your logic Jimbo Fisher or any highly paid coach has never made a bad decision because they’re paid a lot of money.


Stop pretending that you know what’s best for this team. Our coach’s job is to put the best players on the field and put them in a position to win. For whatever reason, Nuss is not a part of the plan and probably won’t be on the roster next year
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:05 pm to
He is bad a running the offense they are asking him to run.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8251 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:11 pm to
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95% of you are quick to point the finger at JDaniels. Do you seriously not see our OL getting blown backward? Do you not see receivers dropping balls and getting zero seperation?


I request an 100X upvote button for posts like this instead of the constant idiots thinking all that needs to happen is JD throw the ball downfield.
Posted by ellis197575
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
1312 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:23 pm to
I think he's a decent QB. However, I don't think he's an SEC caliber QB. The kid has thrown 2 TD's and 1 INT combined in his last four starts.

In his 1st year at Az St. he played exceptionally well. He never regained that form. He came here off a season where he threw 10 TD's and 10 INT's (in the Pac 12).

Does he suck...NO.
Is he good enough to be SEC caliber....Also no.
Are we forgetting how Ashford (Auburn 3rd string QB) who was making his 2nd ever start severely outplayed JD?
Everybody keep saying we have no talent. Do you honestly think Auburn is in better shape than us in the talent department? Ashford looked MUCH better than JD.

Just because BK is sticking with JD that doesn't mean anything to me. Les Miles stuck with Jordan Jefferson.

We'll never know but I surmise BK was only able to recruit JD here by guaranteeing him the starting role. JD is on record saying he came here to improve his draft stock and to tap into untapped potential. No way he was transferring to any school to simply "compete" for a starting job when he had already been starting for 3 years.

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