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re: Culotta going all in on compliance dept

Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28349 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:06 am to
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According to this Baylor's WBB program brought in over $7.5MM in revenue last year.


I have no reason to dispute that info.

However, it's also helpful to somewhat gauge the potential ROI of a highly paid WBB coach.

UConn is second on that list, generating just over $9 million in 2018. Their attendance that season was an avg. of 10k per home game. They also played in a few neutral site big games which I'm sure added additional revenue.

That year's UConn team went 36-1 (losing in the Final Four) ending a remarkable 111 game winning streak. Their HOF coach, Geno Auriemma, had a $2.4 million base salary that year.

YET, despite being 2nd in the nation in average attendance; being in the midst of the greatest winning streak of all time in the sport; looking for their 5th consecutive national championship; and playing in multiple revenue generating neural site made-for-tv games, the program STILL lost ~$3 million dollars.

It's nearly impossible to have more sustained success than the UConn's women's basketball program. Yet, even they operate at a big loss

It literally makes no financial sense WHATSOEVER for LSU to even remotely consider paying $2 million + for a WBB coach
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:13 am to
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Just for reference, in 2018 UConn's WBB program posted a LOSS of $3.1 million. I think we would all agree UConn is the best basketball program in the history of women's basketball and even it is posting a significant bottom line loss.
I think Tennessee actually operated in the black for womens bball for a couple years.

Could be wrong though
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:34 am to
If we can sell 10K seats for gymnastics think of how a great women’s basketball team would do?

What was the attendance figures during the run if final 4s?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36041 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:42 am to
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According to this Baylor's WBB program brought in over $7.5MM in revenue last year.


Baylor averaged 5,849 fans a game in the 17/18 season for 18 home games. The arena holds just over 10,200.

If Baylor counted 7.5 mill in revenues it had to be mostly from donations. TV is minuscule for WBB.

The linked article has Stanford revenues from WBB at over 21 million a year. It has to be donation, or foundation money.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:55 am to
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The numbers aren't bearing that out. Either our numbers from when we were good, or the current numbers from Baylor or UConn.


But we're just looking at ROI based on ticket sales and concessions. What about increased sponsorship? People will jump on board with a winner.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:59 am to
Lester you’re about to lose your job.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31902 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:00 pm to
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I’m not going to fault compliance for enforcing them when LSU’s big 3 programs have been rather clean the last 2 decades.


all while the end result suffers due to over zealousness.

My man, you are really showing your arse now.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:03 pm to
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all while the end result suffers due to over zealousness.


I’m genuinely curious, how?

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70290 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:03 pm to
So the softball picture thing cost them 15% of their practice time over the course of the season. For going longer than 15 minutes to take a team picture.

And this is something to be celebrated for the compliance fricks? "Hey, we materially altered the chance of success over something that had no bearing on performance and otherwise would have never been found out. WE DID OUR JOB!"
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31902 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:05 pm to
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I’m genuinely curious, how?


a dictatorial/misplaced substance program for one.

you knighting for Bo and his cronies has me genuinely curious too....
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32635 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Talking about compliance turning in the softball team last week for taking longer than 15 minutes to take a team picture.

Talking about compliance turning in the football program to the SEC when a backup QB picked up and put on a head set during the BYU game a few years back going over the 9 headsets allowed to be worn by coaches.
This isn’t doing your job. This is looking for reasons to hurt LSU.

How do you become a compliance director? I’ll do that shite, start recruiting on Bamas level.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:09 pm to
I have knowledge of this topic.

While I would agree the Compliance department may be "overzealous" in some areas, the fact that they are thorough and have kept LSU out of trouble is what they are here for.

Especially when you consider the extreme double standard that the SEC/NCAA has when it comes to catering to certain schools in specific sports.

PS - If you don't get what I am talking about, see what happened to Ole Miss after they beat Bama as opposed to how Bama "processed" LSU after losses in 2010 and 2011 regular season.

Bama had to take different steps to make LSUFootball's life more difficult (hint: bridge schedules, officiating, etc).

If you don't think this is how shite operates, then let's talk about Santa being real.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
6999 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:13 pm to
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Talking about compliance turning in the softball team last week for taking longer than 15 minutes to take a team picture.


Why is this even an issue ?
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18756 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:17 pm to
Is this why you’ve been so unbearable? You’re locked in with the compliance department? Well seems like your buddies are a bit over zealous and yes by enforcing the rules.

All this time i thought you loved Joe but you’re just sticking up for an equally hated bunch lol.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:22 pm to
It is an issue bc the NCAA is completely unreasonable with their rules.

The NCAA also has a HUGE double standard with how they treat certain programs.

LSU Softball, while respectable, isn't up to a level of that of a UCLA, ASU, Bama, OU, where they are above NCAA rules. Until LSU becomes a true Blue Blood in any sport besides baseball, the compliance department will be thorough.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18756 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:26 pm to
If you don’t have a few folks defaulting your credit standards are too strict. However, if you’re trying to sell that we should be over the top about the rules and Bama will only beat us because of scheduling and refs. I mean what in the every loving hell is that??

You’re actually saying we either get beat by the refs or we’re Ole MIss.
Where you people come from??

By your logic we need to vacate our 03 and 07 Natty’s
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15559 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:30 pm to
Y’all remember the NCAA sanctions a couple years ago because our football program was 3 pages too long?

You can bet these people were behind that.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Talking about compliance turning in the football program to the SEC when a backup QB picked up and put on a head set during the BYU game a few years back going over the 9 headsets allowed to be worn by coaches.



This compliance department clearly doesn't have a clue as to why they exist.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9633 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:35 pm to
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Talking about compliance turning in the softball team last week for taking longer than 15 minutes to take a team picture.


What kind of fricked up rule is this anyway?? Why is this even a rule?

I hope they fire every single fricker in compliance. Learn to code bitches!
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50302 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 12:44 pm to
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You’re actually saying we either get beat by the refs or we’re Ole MIss.
Where you people come from??

By your logic we need to vacate our 03 and 07 Natty’s



Yeah, you missed my point completely.

I mean not even in the same galaxy.

Another good reminder of why I quit sharing what I know here years ago, and just stuck to mainly trolling.
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