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re: Coach O Is Crushing It
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:24 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:24 pm to Topwater Trout
Les Miles had one of the greatest records of alltime vs non ranked teams 72-11 at LSU so I dunno where you’re getting this. His record vs teams ranked 11-25 is also the best ever in LSU history. Sabans record was better vs top 5 and maybe top 10 but top 5-10 is very close.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 7:28 pm
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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Well I have heard people saying o can’t get us in the playoffs. I’m sure you’ve read those posts right. We were in a better position to make the cfb playoff this year going into final game than we were in 2007
Going into the final game? Nah - actually we weren't. You see, the playoffs have this thing called a committee. There's no way, at all, AT ALL they were going to vote us in after that 29-0 blanking in Baton Rouge. Maybe in YOUR mind, had we beat A&M, we had a chance - but that's the dumbest thing ever. Going into the final game, we had a GREAT chance to go into the sugar bowl, but we didn't.
Going into the final game, we had a chance to have a 10 win regular season - but we didn't.
Going into the final game - we had more losses in regulation than the 2007 team. We had more losses total as well.
On wait - here's my favorite one.
Going into the final game - the 2007 team was ranked #1. It was the final game they lost before going on to win the SEC and BCS.
So, no, going into the final game, I think 1st ranked team competing for 2 spots is better than anything we were ranked... GOING into the final game.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:29 pm to Topwater Trout
We played Arkansas, Rice and Texans A&M after Bama this and went 2-1
0-1 vs team who won 3 games
It’s easy to rebound after Alabama when you don’t have to play a team with a pulse.
Since 2016 O hasn’t only played 7 teams over .500 after Alabama
That’s including 3 bowl games.
And he is 4-3 in those game
0-1 vs team who won 3 games
It’s easy to rebound after Alabama when you don’t have to play a team with a pulse.
Since 2016 O hasn’t only played 7 teams over .500 after Alabama
That’s including 3 bowl games.
And he is 4-3 in those game
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:30 pm to earl keese
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It's like how you've claimed that all I ever do is criticize o.
True
But of all the negatigers, you're probably the most stable and rational. I never feel like you're unwilling to see the other side
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Earl is damn good people.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:37 pm to TigerLunatik
I think so. I disagree with him some but he's not unreasonable.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:02 pm to TrevRollings29
God damn. Y’all MFers got time today cuzz
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:10 pm to TrevRollings29
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1. Brandon Harris - 4 star - .96 overall rating 3rd rated dual threat
was terrible. Transferred after 16'
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2. Brandon Bergeron - 3 star - 80 overall -
Walkon
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1. Malachi Dupree -5 star - 99 overall
Left after O's interim year.
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2. Trey Quinn - 4 star - 96 overall
Transferred. 114/1236/13TDs in 17' at SMU
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4. Tony Upchurch - 4 star - 89 overall
Was moved to FB. Transferred
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7. Tyron Johnson - 5 star - 98 overall
Transferred. 53/845/7 Tds at Ok St
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9. Jazz Ferguson - 4 star - 89 overall
Transferred. 66/1117/13 TDs in 18' at NW st
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10. Bry'Keithon Mouton - 3 star - 85 overall
Transferred
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11. Hanner Shipley - 3 star - 83 overall
Transferred
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17. Mannie Netherly - 4 star (only 4* WR in O's first class) - 90
moved to CB
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1. Garrett Brumfield - 4 star - 95 overall OG
2. Will Clapp - 4 star - 90 overall OG
3. Jevonte Domond - 4 star - 89 overall OT
4. Maea Teuhema - 5 star - 98 overall OG
5. Toby Weathersby - 4 star - 95 overall - OT
6. Chidi Okeke - 4 star - 95 overall - OT
7. Adrian Magee - 3 star - 87 overall - OT
8. George Brown - 3 star - 87 overall - OT
9. Donavaughn Campbell - 4 star - 93 overall - OG
10. Willie Allen - 4 star - 92 overall - OT
11. Jakori Savage - 3 star - 84 overall - OT
12. Lloyd Cushenberry - 3 star - 82 overall - OG
13. Austin Deculus - 4 star - 97 overall - OT
14. Edward Ingram - 4 star - 92 overall - OG
15. Saahdiq Charles - 4 star - 90 overall - OG
where's the top end talent?
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1. Davon Godchaux - 4 star - 93 overall SDE
2. Deondre Clark - 4 star - 93 overall SDE
3. Sione Teuhema - 3 star - 88 overall WDE
4. Trey Lealaimatafao - 3 star - 87 overall - DT
5. Travonte Valentine - 4 star - 96 overall - DT
6. Arden Key - 4 star - 95 WDE
7. Isaiah Washington - 3 star - 87 WDE
8. Rashard Lawrence - 5 star - 98 overall DT
9. Ed Alexander - 4 star - 96 overall DT
10. Glen Logan - 4 star - 93 overall DT
11. Andre Anthony 4 star - 92 overall WDE
12. Rahssan Thornton - 4 star - 92 overall WDE
13. Sci Martin - 3 star - 86 overall WDE
14. Neil Farrell - 3 star - 88 overall DT
Godchaux- gone after O's interim year. Where's the top end talent?
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LB signees 14-17: (2017 class only players that committed while les was coach)
1. Clifton Garret - 5 star - 98 overall
2. Donnie Alexander - 3 star - 87 overall
3. Michael Divinity - 4 star - 96 overall
4. Layton Garnett - 3 star - 83 overall
5. Devin White - best linebacker in LSU history
6-11: See WDE recruits listed above
Garrett transfered
Alexander sucked
Garrett was a walk on
I have one question for you. You said you went through this, and got mad. Do you even follow the team at all? All the guys that transferred. All the guys, tho highly rated, we not good players at LSU.
Did you even see my bridge comments? Guys like Godchaux and Dupre that O got 1 year out of in his interim year.
You proved my point for me.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:10 pm to Madking
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So back to back 3rd place finishes in the West is trending up? That’s exactly where we finished Miles last 2 seasons.
It's just ridiculous that the same posters here continue to aggressively assert that major improvements have been made and that an upward trend exists.
There isn't any measurable results that support and favor their argument but for some reason that doesn't matter. Orgeron had a better season this year compared to the shite show last season and now O's crushing it with things trending up.
O has been in charge for nearly 3 full seasons including his time as interim HC. He's been a part of the LSU program since early January in 2015. All this time with the program and there's still isn't any measurable results that show Orgeron has been any better than the fired guy he replaced...... Let alone any type of "Upward Trend".
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:15 pm to boxcar willie
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:17 pm to Topwater Trout
Except we somehow got into the top 2 in 2007 and we were even going to be top 4 in 2018 IF we won.
We wouldn’t have been top 5. We were not skipping OSU or Oklahoma. And neither of them lost.
We wouldn’t have been top 5. We were not skipping OSU or Oklahoma. And neither of them lost.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:18 pm to LSU Groupee
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The guy has loss seven games in two years and some of those were against teams not as talented as us. I would say thinking he cant win get into the playoffs and win it is a reasonable assumption
Good thing Clemson fans didn’t buy into this line of thinking
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:31 pm to p&g
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Good thing Clemson fans didn’t buy into this line of thinking
Probably because Dabo had substantive accomplishments (e.g., Division title in year one, ACC title in year three).
Some of you have a horrible ability to appreciate context when comparing O to other coaches. It's almost as if you have an agenda (at best), or are just burying your heads in the sand (at worst).
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:34 pm to Lester Earl
You keep talking about top end talent, where’s the top end talent on our lines now? What top end talent has Orgeron brought in on the lines?
This will be his second full class. So far, in two recruiting cycles he’s signed four 4 or 5* OL (only two of which are OTs), and two 4 or 5* DL, and brought in Fehoko.
Seems to me someone with the recruiting chops Orgeron has would recognize these weaknesses and address them.
This will be his second full class. So far, in two recruiting cycles he’s signed four 4 or 5* OL (only two of which are OTs), and two 4 or 5* DL, and brought in Fehoko.
Seems to me someone with the recruiting chops Orgeron has would recognize these weaknesses and address them.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:36 pm to Mo Jeaux
LOL acc champs!
They lost 4 games and gave up 70 points in orange bowl loss.
Year before that they had a losing record.
fricking spare me mo miserable.
They lost 4 games and gave up 70 points in orange bowl loss.
Year before that they had a losing record.
fricking spare me mo miserable.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:42 pm to Lester Earl
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I have one question for you. You said you went through this, and got mad. Do you even follow the team at all? All the guys that transferred. All the guys, tho highly rated, we not good players at LSU.
I don't care what happened to them. They were recruited and signed by Les Miles. Players leaving before or after O getting here has NOTHING to do with Les Miles' recruiting.
Attrition happens to every team. Ed Orgeron is the only coach to date that I've seen to use that as a major excuse.
You and others claim that Les Miles was not recruiting top talent at positions of need. You even listed the positions.
I just showed you that he, as an HC, did what he was supposed to and got top knotch talent here based on the consensus of many experts in the field of recruiting.
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where's the top end talent?
10 4 stars and a five star in essentially 3 years.
Ed Orgeron has what, 3 4 star recruits in his 3 recruiting classes? 0 5 stars.
"Filling needs" lol
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Godchaux- gone after O's interim year. Where's the top end talent?
So, another top end recruit that Miles recruited that O was unable to retain?
8 4 stars and 1 5 star.
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I have one question for you. You said you went through this, and got mad. Do you even follow the team at all? All the guys that transferred. All the guys, tho highly rated, we not good players at LSU.
Doesn't change the fact that per all accounts they were some of the best recruits in the country at the time of their recruitment.
O finally looks to possibly have his first top 10 class. You're among those that seems to think 0% of these players will get hurt, transfer or just be over rated in general.
Les was doing nothing abnormal when it came to recruiting. Just some p#ss poor luck and events.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:45 pm to p&g
They also hadn’t won a championship since the 80 and he was following up Tommy Bowden.
Their last Conference Title was in 1991 and they hadn’t won their division ever.
I dont Think you could call Clemson a rebuild when he took over, it was a never built.
Their last Conference Title was in 1991 and they hadn’t won their division ever.
I dont Think you could call Clemson a rebuild when he took over, it was a never built.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:48 pm to SammyTiger
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They also hadn’t won a championship since the 80 and he was following up Tommy Bowden.
Their last Conference Title was in 1991 and they hadn’t won their division ever.
I dont Think you could call Clemson a rebuild when he took over, it was a never built.
Context. p&g doesn't want to hear it. It's borderline religious fanaticism. O will be successful. We just must have faith.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:48 pm to TrevRollings29
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O finally looks to possibly have his first top 10 class.
Have to give him a ton of credit for holding together that '17 class as the interim coach in '16. Didn't that class finish #7 or close to that?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:50 pm to p&g
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LOL acc champs!
How many championships does O have as HC? Kind of odd how you simultaneously denigrate Dabo's achievements while using him as an example of how O will be successful. Odd, but not surprising. You're grasping at anything you can.
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