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re: Coach O has 3 yrs remaining after this season on current contract...does Alleva extend?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:06 am to lsu2006
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:06 am to lsu2006
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A coach's job security isn't inherently tied to the length of his contract.
No, but it is low hanging fruit for people recruiting against you. This is not rocket science.
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Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:59 am to The Pirate King
But not the lowest.
And I am Sorry but I dont Think “he only has three years left in his deal” is really going to sway a kid.
And I am Sorry but I dont Think “he only has three years left in his deal” is really going to sway a kid.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:04 pm to Covingtontiger77
Let's let him earn some of those bonuses before we extend him
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:13 pm to Covingtontiger77
Quick!! Before someone else hires him!!!!
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:16 pm to Covingtontiger77
I wouldn’t extend, but with similar results next year I would. A top 10 finish should be at the minimum
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:21 pm to Covingtontiger77
I wouldn't extend until we see some improvement on offense.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:23 pm to SammyTiger
Absolutely it will sway a kid. Kids commit based on relationship with coaches. If you don’t increase the buy out and the base salary doesn’t really go up, the extension doesn’t put the school in any worse position.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:34 pm to Dizz
No it won’t, because 3 years is a long fricking time to figure out an extension.
This isn’t the negative recruiting tool anyone wants it to be.
And I get the reasoning behind the arguement, I just Thinknits premature and we have a 3rd season to make a decision.
I think Everyone think 3 years is a good point to assess the contract and determine if an extension is appropriate
This isn’t the negative recruiting tool anyone wants it to be.
And I get the reasoning behind the arguement, I just Thinknits premature and we have a 3rd season to make a decision.
I think Everyone think 3 years is a good point to assess the contract and determine if an extension is appropriate
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:37 pm to SammyTiger
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This isn’t the negative recruiting tool anyone wants it to be.
Exactly. Everyone realizes at this point that pretty much every coach at a big time school is one shite season away from being canned, regardless of what their contract might say.
Only real reason to extend or up the ante on a coach's contract is out of fear someone will try to poach him. That doesn't seem to be a concern at LSU at the present time.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:42 pm to Covingtontiger77
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I have long contended that with the OOC cup cake games and the fertile recruitng grounds of LA that 8 wins is almost a guarantee every year here.
really ???
8 wins is almost a guarantee in your book ?
playing GA, FL, Miss ST, Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama, Ark, Texas A&M, ...and a ranked opponent in week one (Miami this year)...maybe in years past
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:56 pm to wryder1
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. In my opinion he still owes LSU the cost of Canada’s buyout for not knowing who the hell he was hiring in canada. That’s on him and he owes LSU that so piss on an extension this year
LSU fans aren't irrational and delusional at all.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:02 pm to Dizz
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Absolutely it will sway a kid. Kids commit based on relationship with coaches. If you don’t increase the buy out and the base salary doesn’t really go up, the extension doesn’t put the school in any worse position.
Lol. As if most of these recruits understand the contractual terms. Y'all are a hoot.
"Well, I chose school X, because the coach's contract at school y has an adverse restrictive covenant that I think will hamper his ability to effectively lead the program."
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:03 pm to Covingtontiger77
I do think we should extend for recruiting purposes. But keep the buy out manageable as it is now.
I also don’t think he should ever get a raise without winning National Title. This man should be eternally grateful to LSU for giving him this opportunity. I think he is and I don’t think he’s going anywhere.
$3.5 million/year is plenty enough money for the rest of his life so I really don’t care if in 5 years he is the lowest paid coach in the SEC. no raise.
I also don’t think he should ever get a raise without winning National Title. This man should be eternally grateful to LSU for giving him this opportunity. I think he is and I don’t think he’s going anywhere.
$3.5 million/year is plenty enough money for the rest of his life so I really don’t care if in 5 years he is the lowest paid coach in the SEC. no raise.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:21 pm to lsu2006
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This narrative is so over-played. Contracts can be and indeed are bought out or terminated prematurely all the time. A coach's job security isn't inherently tied to the length of his contract. The direction of the program (or perception of that direction by those in charge) and the results on the field dictate a coach's job security far more than how many years are left on his contract.
Thank you. This idea that a coach can't convince recruits to come play for him without at least 4 years left on his contract was undoubtedly started by some coach's agent and ADs bought in.
I bet 90% of recruits don't have the slightest clue as to how many years the coaches that are recruiting them have left on their contract, nor do they really care.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:23 pm to PhiTiger1764
Most LSU fans seem to be OK that Alleva settled for Orgeron, so go ahead and settle again and settle on being good, but never great.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:30 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Only real reason to extend or up the ante on a coach's contract is out of fear someone will try to poach him. That doesn't seem to be a concern at LSU at the present time
Sure. Let's show the world that LSU won't pay market value to their coach. Even after he's shown that he can be successful on that stage. It does nothing but look bad on LSU after a certain amount of time but those of you that are supposedly rabid LSU fans don't care. You don't want the shrimp boat captain to make a salary comparable to other's in his position and you certainly don't want this abomination of a contract extended.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:32 pm to bencoleman
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Let's show the world that LSU won't pay market value to their coach.
LSU pays Orgeron well over his market value. For fricks sake, Syracuse didn’t even want to interview him for their HC job. What exactly do you think Orgeron’s value is on the open market?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:35 pm to bencoleman
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Sure. Let's show the world that LSU won't pay market value to their coach. Even after he's shown that he can be successful on that stage. It does nothing but look bad on LSU after a certain amount of time but those of you that are supposedly rabid LSU fans don't care. You don't want the shrimp boat captain to make a salary comparable to other's in his position and you certainly don't want this abomination of a contract extended.
So, what are you saying?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:37 pm to bencoleman
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Sure. Let's show the world that LSU won't pay market value to their coach. Even after he's shown that he can be successful on that stage. It does nothing but look bad on LSU after a certain amount of time but those of you that are supposedly rabid LSU fans don't care. You don't want the shrimp boat captain to make a salary comparable to other's in his position and you certainly don't want this abomination of a contract extended.
Oh Jesus.
After the way Alleva handled the Miles firing, the hiring of O, the Canada debacle, and the remaining OC uncertainty, you think not giving O a contract extension/raise is going to give LSU a black eye? You should come back down to reality, Ben.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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So, what are you saying
That it looks bad on the university to not extend and pay market value to a successful coach.
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