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Coach O has 3 yrs remaining after this season on current contract...does Alleva extend?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:37 am
General rule of thumb is that you don’t want the HC of your team to have less than 4 years on his current deal. This is for recruiting purposes as oncoming guys want to know that the head man has the years- at least contract wise- to be their coach for their full time at a school.
So question, is LSU extending O as he only has 3 left after this season?
Base compensation
· 2017 guaranteed pay: $3,500,000
· Total contract pay: $17,500,000
· Contract length: 5 years
· Start date: 11/28/2016
· Expires: 12/31/2021
Incentives
· National title bonus: $500,000
· CFP semifinal win: $150,000
· CFP semifinal appearance: $150,000
· Conference title bonus: $100,000 for appearing and $100,000 more for winning
· Misc athletic-based incentives: $200,000 for 12 wins, $150,000 for 11 wins, $100,000 for 10 wins;
· Coach of the year award bonus: $25,000 for conference coach of year; $50,000 for national coach of year
· Academic bonuses: $75,000 for team GPA of 2.75; $50,000 more for team GPA of 3.00; $75,000 for APR of 960
· Tickets: unspecified amount of tickets to football and other sports
· Golf/country club: two cars with insurance reimbursed or $2,000 a month
Other Perks
· Miscellaneous perks: cell phone; guests can fly with team with approval from athletic director.
· Buyout if coach leaves for another coaching job: $3,500,000 if before 11/28/17; $3,000,000 if before 11/28/18; $2,500,000 if before 11/28/19; $1,500,000 if before 11/28/20; $500,000 if before 11/28/21
So question, is LSU extending O as he only has 3 left after this season?
Base compensation
· 2017 guaranteed pay: $3,500,000
· Total contract pay: $17,500,000
· Contract length: 5 years
· Start date: 11/28/2016
· Expires: 12/31/2021
Incentives
· National title bonus: $500,000
· CFP semifinal win: $150,000
· CFP semifinal appearance: $150,000
· Conference title bonus: $100,000 for appearing and $100,000 more for winning
· Misc athletic-based incentives: $200,000 for 12 wins, $150,000 for 11 wins, $100,000 for 10 wins;
· Coach of the year award bonus: $25,000 for conference coach of year; $50,000 for national coach of year
· Academic bonuses: $75,000 for team GPA of 2.75; $50,000 more for team GPA of 3.00; $75,000 for APR of 960
· Tickets: unspecified amount of tickets to football and other sports
· Golf/country club: two cars with insurance reimbursed or $2,000 a month
Other Perks
· Miscellaneous perks: cell phone; guests can fly with team with approval from athletic director.
· Buyout if coach leaves for another coaching job: $3,500,000 if before 11/28/17; $3,000,000 if before 11/28/18; $2,500,000 if before 11/28/19; $1,500,000 if before 11/28/20; $500,000 if before 11/28/21
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Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:38 am to Covingtontiger77
Yes, but I don’t think it’s that big a deal as long as you leave yourself an out with a manageable buyout after 2020 if need be.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:39 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
CFP semifinal win: $150,000
· CFP semifinal appearance: $150,000
Get the same amount for winning as you do for just appearing? What a schmuck.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:39 am to Covingtontiger77
What kind of rule of thumb is that?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:40 am to Areddishfish
No you get 2xs as much for winning...
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
Follow up to this would be, what’s the season win total that would NOT warrant a year being added?
I have long contended that with the OOC cup cake games and the fertile recruitng grounds of LA that 8 wins is almost a guarantee every year here.
I have long contended that with the OOC cup cake games and the fertile recruitng grounds of LA that 8 wins is almost a guarantee every year here.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:43 am to Areddishfish
quote:
Get the same amount for winning as you do for just appearing? What a schmuck.
It’s $150k for the appearance, $300k for a win.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:44 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
So question, is LSU extending O as he only has 3 left after this season?
An extension should be out of the question if we lose to A&M. I'd be ok with extending his contact with no buyout increase if we finish 11-2 and ranked in the top 10.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:46 am to SammyTiger
quote:
What kind of rule of thumb is that?
The normal kind in every major D1 power 5 conference athletic department.
They all operate under this unwritten rule.
How do you recruit kids to come stay 3-5 years when the administration doesn’t have faith to have the HC under contract for at least as long?
It shows a lack of confidence by the athletic department to have otherwise that the HC is out guy and the program is stable.
How do you not know this?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:48 am to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:
An extension should be out of the question if we lose to A&M. I'd be ok with extending his contact with no buyout increase if we finish 11-2 and ranked in the top 10.
We all know the buyout will increase so I’m against any raise until O can prove he can fix the offense. None of this is better than Les if we can’t fix the offense. If he wants a raise then he better do what he was hired to do. Winning 10 games 1 season won’t cut it. In my opinion he still owes LSU the cost of Canada’s buyout for not knowing who the hell he was hiring in canada. That’s on him and he owes LSU that so piss on an extension this year.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:49 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
General rule of thumb is that you don’t want the HC of your team to have less than 4 years on his current deal. This is for recruiting purposes as oncoming guys want to know that the head man has the years- at least contract wise- to be their coach for their full time at a school.
So question, is LSU extending O as he only has 3 left after this season?
Base compensation
· 2017 guaranteed pay: $3,500,000
· Total contract pay: $17,500,000
· Contract length: 5 years
· Start date: 11/28/2016
· Expires: 12/31/2021
Incentives
· National title bonus: $500,000
· CFP semifinal win: $150,000
· CFP semifinal appearance: $150,000
· Conference title bonus: $100,000 for appearing and $100,000 more for winning
· Misc athletic-based incentives: $200,000 for 12 wins, $150,000 for 11 wins, $100,000 for 10 wins;
· Coach of the year award bonus: $25,000 for conference coach of year; $50,000 for national coach of year
· Academic bonuses: $75,000 for team GPA of 2.75; $50,000 more for team GPA of 3.00; $75,000 for APR of 960
· Tickets: unspecified amount of tickets to football and other sports
· Golf/country club: two cars with insurance reimbursed or $2,000 a month
Other Perks
· Miscellaneous perks: cell phone; guests can fly with team with approval from athletic director.
· Buyout if coach leaves for another coaching job: $3,500,000 if before 11/28/17; $3,000,000 if before 11/28/18; $2,500,000 if before 11/28/19; $1,500,000 if before 11/28/20; $500,000 if before 11/28/21
The answer is Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Now maybe next year is he goes 10-2 or 11-1 then yes you can extend him but not after one good year. Whats he going to do if you dont extend him go somewhere else?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:56 am to Covingtontiger77
Maybe 11-2 would get him extended, but I think after next year would be a better time to decide that
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:57 am to Covingtontiger77
Why even discuss this at this point?
Goodness. Let it play out.
Goodness. Let it play out.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
deserves o be extended with a raise , NOW
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:59 am to Double Oh
quote:
Now maybe next year is he goes 10-2 or 11-1 then yes you can extend him but not after one good year. Whats he going to do if you dont extend him go somewhere else?
Why extended any time earlier than a year? He is not going to be in demand. He could win a ship and still not be in demand.. or really wanting to go any where. Of course I would not care what we did if he won a ship, just making a point. Haven’t we learned to just let the contracts play out?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:59 am to Areddishfish
quote:
Get the same amount for winning as you do for just appearing? What a schmuck.
You do realize those stack correct? He would double his money by winning
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:00 am to Covingtontiger77
So you think every coach out there has 4 years left on his deal?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:02 am to Covingtontiger77
Just an FYI - Joe's contract expires next summer. The bigger question is whether or not he gets an extension.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:02 am to Covingtontiger77
Ask me after A&M or the bowl game.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:04 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:
This is for recruiting purposes as oncoming guys want to know that the head man has the years
This narrative is so over-played. Contracts can be and indeed are bought out or terminated prematurely all the time. A coach's job security isn't inherently tied to the length of his contract. The direction of the program (or perception of that direction by those in charge) and the results on the field dictate a coach's job security far more than how many years are left on his contract.
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