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Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:16 am to Mickey Goldmill
Hmmmm, promotion to Defensive Head Coach!!! and Associate Head Coach!!! Yay me! Who needs to be DC?!?
Oh me, I guess, because I left those positions to be DC at Clemson.
Let's weigh these... I was DC, but got "promoted" to other positions the next year. Then the following year I chose to not honor those "promotions" and become DC somewhere else. Maybe they weren't really "promotions".
Oh me, I guess, because I left those positions to be DC at Clemson.
Let's weigh these... I was DC, but got "promoted" to other positions the next year. Then the following year I chose to not honor those "promotions" and become DC somewhere else. Maybe they weren't really "promotions".
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:18 am to drizztiger
If the guy sucked so bad and was demoted the 1st time he was at Bama, why did Saban hire him back after his stint at Clemson? Answer me this.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:18 am to MOT
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Essentially we've hired Dwight Schrute.
just found my signature...
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:20 am to drizztiger
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Hmmmm, promotion to Defensive Head Coach!!! and Associate Head Coach!!! Yay me! Who needs to be DC?!?
Oh me, I guess, because I left those positions to be DC at Clemson.
Let's weigh these... I was DC, but got "promoted" to other positions the next year. Then the following year I chose to not honor those "promotions" and become DC somewhere else. Maybe they weren't really "promotions".
1. He got a raise at Clemson.
2. He got to run a D without Saban hovering over him.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:21 am to Mickey Goldmill
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2. He got to run a D without Saban hovering over him.
And that D sucked big time!
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:23 am to touchdownjeebus
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just found my signature...
But you need to put the title in there for context.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:23 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Yet they got rid of him and hired him back? Saban has repeatedly hired, rehired and promoted the man.
2007 with Saban, he is DC.
By 2014 he is linebacker coach.
He should stick it out - a few more promotions and he may be towel boy!
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:24 am to BamaHater
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If the guy sucked so bad and was demoted the 1st time he was at Bama, why did Saban hire him back after his stint at Clemson? Answer me this.
He didn't hire him back as his DC. If we hired him as a director of player personnel or linebackers coach he'd be a fine hire. This is such a hopelessly stupid argument. He could be a bad DC but still be good at other things and useful to the organization.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:24 am to BamaHater
quote:He hired him as a recruiter. He was not DC. Kirby took that job from him in 2008 after Steele failed in 2007.
If the guy sucked so bad and was demoted the 1st time he was at Bama, why did Saban hire him back after his stint at Clemson? Answer me this.
You always hire recruiters when possible. You just give them made up job titles and don't let them run your x's and o's.
Frank Wilson is a great coach for LSU. Tremendous recruiter. He has a job. It's not OC or DC though.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:26 am to igoringa
quote:Associate Head Coach for Towel Maintenance. $1.1m.
He should stick it out - a few more promotions and he may be towel boy!
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:32 am to TBTH
I don't know what happened his last year at Clemson, but to be fair, Steele's first two defenses there were pretty solid. Not great, but not catastrophes either.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:38 am to drizztiger
Again, I'm not super excited about this, but he's supposed to be a great recruiter and seems at least capable of fielding a decent defense. So I don't think it's quite as hopeless as people are making it sound.
Clemson had the 13th best defense in terms of points per game in 2010. LINK
Of course, he's also capable of fielding a bad defense...
Clemson had the 13th best defense in terms of points per game in 2010. LINK
Of course, he's also capable of fielding a bad defense...
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:49 am to demtigers73
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And that D sucked big time!
Two out of three years you are wrong.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 1:07 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Two out of three years you are wrong.
ETA:
2009(Clemson) 314 yards 20.4 points per game
2010(Clemson) 320 yards 18.8 points per game
2011(Clemson) 394 yards 29.3 points per game
Still not impressed compared to:
2009(Chavis) 328 yards 16.2 points per game
2010(Chavis) 307 yards 18.2 points per game
2011(Chavis) 262 yards 11.3 points per game
2012(Chavis) 308 yards 17.5 points per game
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 1:23 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 1:11 am to demtigers73
He wasn't Clemson's DC in 2012.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 1:47 am to Tigersnca
He was so bad he was re-hired by Saban.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 2:07 am to demtigers73
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2009(Clemson) 314 yards 20.4 points per game
2010(Clemson) 320 yards 18.8 points per game
2011(Clemson) 394 yards 29.3 points per game
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2009(Chavis) 328 yards 16.2 points per game
2010(Chavis) 307 yards 18.2 points per game
2011(Chavis) 262 yards 11.3 points per game
2012(Chavis) 308 yards 17.5 points per game
Way to leave out 2013, the worst year we had under Chavis.
But I guess we can't leave out Steele's worst year at Clemson.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 2:18 am to SammyTiger
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But that clearly isn't his Xs and Os
"It is not about the X's and O's.
It is about the Jim's and Joe's."
Posted on 1/14/15 at 2:29 am to drizztiger
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After Steele was fired from Clemson as DC and re-hired by Saban, he didn't even get the co-DC back.
That's what you do when you want someone on board but don't have a spot for them at that time. It's actually, like, a compliment.
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