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He was gone last year if he didn't beat A&M. He will be gone this year if they team continues to look this bad (and there's no reason to think it won't). It doesn't matter what it costs, money will be found if they lose four or five games.

Going on a three loss skid after starting 7-0 is pretty much the definition of "the wheels falling off." As in "things were going well and then the wheels fell off."

The weak starting schedule most years artificially inflates our rankings and then we come back down to earth when we get into the meat of our backloaded schedule.

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You mean like our 2015 offense? The offense that finished 4th in the sec in offensive yards per game and 3rd in the sec in offensive points per game? The offense that has been good 2 of the last 3 years?

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When you limit it to conference games only (take out the cupcakes) LSU was 6th in total offense in the SEC. Worse, they were 5th in the SEC west. If your quarterbacks are only completing half of their passes you don't have a good offense, no matter how great your running back is.

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Wow lol, you are dumb arse frick!!! Jimbo has been telling all his guys that they can be the next Russell, Ponder, Manuel, and now Winston. First round QBs who have made millions of dollars. You know what the first 3 have in common, they all sucked arse in the NFL.

Or take Meyer for example. Come be the next Smith, Tebow, and at least one of his 3 QBs that have played will be a top 3 round pick. Both positions are loaded, yet they keep getting tons of guys to go there. Neither Meyer or Smith were worth a shite in the NFL (Smith is finally mediocre and only became serviceable after getting with Harbaugh).

Who cares what they do in the NFL? These kids see the draft picks and millions.

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The kids we're recruiting now were 10 when Russell was drafted. That's half a lifetime ago to them and half of them won't ever have seen him play. God forbid they google him and learn what a gigantic waste of talent he was. He was drafted in the first by the Raiders, a team that made notoriously dumb draft choices and paid a huge contract that it would be impossible for any first round pick to get now because of the fixed wage scale for rookies. He's basically responsible for WHY huge rookie contracts are no longer a thing. He's a cautionary tale, not an aspirational one.

Matt Flynn was drafted in the 7th round. Zach Mettenberger was drafted in the 6th round. Players drafted in the 6th and 7th rounds are overwhelmingly likely to be out of the league within a year or two and will have made less than 1 million total in their time there.

Jimbo Fisher and Urban Meyer are getting good recruits because they have a history of producing good offenses and good college QBs. Les Miles doesn't have any such history, in fact LSU has largely been average to bad at the QB position since Jimbo left. Pointing to shite that happened in 2007 doesn't change that and thinking recruits care about that is hilarious.

Also hilarious is thinking that a) the top college players in the country aren't super competitive and are totally just playing to get a big NFL contract and immediately flame out or hold a clipboard for Aaron Rodgers and b) that we would actually want players for whom that was their long term goal.

Do people really think Jamarcus Russell and Matt Flynn are positive stories to tell recruits?

"Come to LSU, you could be the next worst bust in draft history (but without the millions because of the fixed wage scale for draft picks) or a perennial backup who couldn't make it out of preseason with the fricking Raiders! Feel the excitement!"

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Hurt feelings aside, it's hard to imagine Nick Saban having a guy on his staff that isn't very competent. Let's face it, Saban's known as a taskmaster and not in the business of making friends with his assistants. If you are there, it's because you bring something of value to the position. Just sayin.

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Saban didn't have him on staff as his defensive coordinator, so I'm not sure how that's relevant. He may be very good at a lot of football related things, but the evidence from his career so far is that coordinating a defense is not one of those things.

Maybe he ends up being good, but it's still a bad look for a supposedly prestigious program like LSU to go digging around in another teams garbage for a hire.

So no actual recognition of a record by the SEC. Gotcha. And now using conference games is cherry picking. Because conference games totally don't determine conference standing. You posted five times I a row with nothing at all to say.

Though at least now you've moved the goalposts from "the 2013 offense set records" to "the 2013 offense was good." It was good. It just wasn't the best, or even very close, in any metric.

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It isn't really arbitrary, centennials of carries are pretty standard measurements.

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It's arbitrary because 200 carries is not materially different than 180 carries other than our preference for round numbers. It's also arbitrary in that a gap of 100 carries is relatively huge so the difference between 100 and 200 and 300 means that the strata are too broad to be meaningful. Rate stats will always be problematic due to questions of appropriate sample size, and Hill undoubtedly had a great year, but he wasn't even definitively the best back in the SEC that year.

And he still didn't make the rushing offense better than middle of the pack.

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Wrong.

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Nope. Limit the stats to in conference games only and see where we come out. Conference play is what matters, not stat padding against body bag opponents. When limited to in conference play only LSU was behind Alabama, A&M, Auburn and Missouri in YPA.

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So being 12th in the country in yards per play, isnt close to being the best offense?

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Fifth in the SEC, with three west teams ahead of us. You've got a funny definition of best. Take out all of the cupcake games and you get a better picture.