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re: Chris Jackson/Mahmoud asked about his feelings on jersey retirement issue tonight

Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:52 pm to
Surprisingly that's actually a more reasonable take than whatever the hell metaloctopus is arguing
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5901 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:53 pm to
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Leaving to go to the NBA is a lot different than dropping out of college


Leaving, and not finishing your degree, which he has had ample time to do, is quitting. That is the word I used. And many of these guys don't even try when they are in college, because they don't think it matters. You let them off the hook, you set a bad example for everyone else. Sadly, many players ARE given all sorts of praise, even if they are awful students.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5901 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:55 pm to
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Surprisingly that's actually a more reasonable take than whatever the hell metaloctopus is arguing


So you are intentionally playing dumb, now? You know exactly what I'm talking about. You just don't agree, because you think "hey, they didn't come to play school".

And that's why so many people are ignorant like you.
Posted by Sweet daddy
Member since Jan 2016
1037 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:57 pm to
What is the majority rule around the country for Universities retiring a Jersey ? I bet non or most have anything to do with graduation.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5901 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:00 pm to
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Lol @ using "it's the rule dammit" as an argument. You've already been proven wrong about that and it's a lame viewpoint even if you weren't.

Using Mays as an example is possibly the biggest use of an outlier I've ever seen

I assume you think Rudy Niswanger is one of the only football players deserving of recognition?


I didn't simply say it was the rule. I said why it was the rule. Again, you're just too lazy to accept that people should take responsibility.

As for Skylar Mays being an outlier, he's only such, because he's one of the few athletes left who aren't lazy and entitled. That's exactly why I mentioned him. He's not the only one CAPABLE of doing what he does, he's just one of the few who are willing to.

Great athletes get their recognition in the papers, and on tv. They make their money and win their awards. But they don't deserve to be honored by the university they never graduated from. This isn't complicated.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47862 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:02 pm to
Yes Chris Jackson’s jersey should be retired and hanging in the PMAC. Jackson owns the national freshman scoring record, not just here at LSU, if we want to build a history and culture we need to recognize and promote the great things and traditions that’ve happened here. Not only did Jackson break the freshman record he was an All-American both seasons here and 2x SEC POTY. How many of those have we had here? Only one other power 5 player has averaged over 30ppg in the last 30 years and that was the Big Dog from Purdue, Glen Robinson, but Robinson’s career average can’t even touch CJs (29ppg to 27.5ppg). It’s time to celebrate one of the 3/4 best players in LSU basketball history.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5901 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:03 pm to
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What is the majority rule around the country for Universities retiring a Jersey ? I bet non or most have anything to do with graduation.


Make you can look it up. It should be a requirement everywhere, if it isn't.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17848 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Only losers graduate from college in four years



WTF are you talking about?

I know someone who graduated with a masters in physics 5 years after he started LSU. This was before you could test out of courses.

That means a 3 year undergrad degree.

Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Leaving to go to the NBA is a lot different than dropping out of college


Yes it is, but either abide by the rules or change the rules. But until the rules are changed you have to abide by the current rules. It really isn’t complicated!!!!!!
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:12 pm to
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one of the few athletes left who aren't lazy and entitled



Dude if you think guys like Mays are common I don't know what to tell you. Also, unsurprisingly, you didn't comment on my Niswanger comparison.

I'm the same age as you. I realize that the value guys that leave early bring to LSU is way more important than them staying and graduating. You're just being obtuse.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 11:18 pm
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11909 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:14 pm to
The fact that his jersey isn’t already retired is sad. Honor the guy. He earned it.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:15 pm to
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Yes it is, but either abide by the rules or change the rules. But until the rules are changed you have to abide by the current rules. It really isn’t complicated

No joke. The rule obviously should be changed.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17026 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:21 pm to
frick Chris Jackson.

In no way does he deserve his jersey retired by LSU.

This is some of the dumbest shite I’ve ever read on TD.
Posted by dwariley
Member since Jun 2016
605 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:41 pm to
Yet, you're ok with his jersey being retired eventhough he was expelled for not attending class. So, he didn't get it before 40. But you said that he would have gotten it had he not died. That's bs and you know it. He was a senior and didn't complete it. Pistol is very deserving of this honor as is Rauf.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 11:43 pm to
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Chris Jackson absolutely should have his number retired. He’s top 5 all Time at LSU.
he's top 3
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24269 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 12:08 am to
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Did Shaq graduate?

I remember him saying the school is named after him - Love Shaq University.
Posted by iluvbrokli
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2011
96 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:16 am to
Found this previous post on TD. Should Todd Walker's Jersey be retired?
LINK /

Interesting read. Quick, without clicking the link, what do you think the general consensus was? I bet you can guess correctly! Remarkably there wasn't the painfully coded language when it came to his discussion. And let's be honest...Todd Walker was great, but no better at his sport than Chris Jackson was at his. And if you take time to read the posts you'll see that graduation is NOT a prerequisite to getting your jersey retired. "To have a jersey retired at LSU, an athlete must have completed intercollegiate competition for LSU a minimum of five years prior to nomination. Athletes must have demonstrated truly unusual and outstanding accomplishments, exceeding and in addition to all criteria used for Hall of Fame selection. The athletic performance must be considered unique, such as winning of a Heisman Trophy or National Player of the Year award, and should be based on the total LSU career. Athletes may also be considered for making dramatic impact on the popularity of his or her sport or for significant participation in positive change in LSU Athletics. Nominees must have a unanimous vote of support from the Hall of Fame committee". LSUsports.net

So now...all you posters who were so upset at the mere thought of the retiring of Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf's jersey on the grounds he didn't graduate and had the audacity to go make millions of dollars after he was drafted, please also post your disdain that LSU would dare sully their academic reputation by retiring Todd Walker's jersey too.
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 3:19 am
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29445 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:36 am to
Who else would rather hangout with anyone on this board more then this octopus guy. You sound like a miserable guy
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35399 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:36 am to
Holy shite, not even 3 pages through yet and I'm pretty sure my IQ has dropped 10 points just from reading the stupid shite Metaloctopus and Darius David have wrote.
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 3:38 am
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29445 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:40 am to
They both make my head hurt
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