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re: Chris Jackson/Mahmoud asked about his feelings on jersey retirement issue tonight
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:10 pm to DallasTiger45
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:10 pm to DallasTiger45
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I'd argue that going back to finish some dumb general studies degree would be a waste of Mahmoud's time. The concept of the "student-athlete" is often a sham.
Ok, then let it remain a waste of his time. Then LSU doesn't need to waste their time honoring him.
I agree that a general studies degree is dumb. College is mostly dumb, in general, because people come out of there sounding less educated than when they went in. I wouldn't waste my time or money on a useless degree. I'd go somewhere, where they actually teach real life skills, and I'd take a class in a field where I know I can use my degree. Otherwise, I'll take trade school over college, any day.
But, IF you are going to go to college, get a free ride to play sports, then you better at least finish that "dumb" degree. Otherwise, you're just using the University, and you can forget about honors. If you can't make the time to finish a degree in your free time, then you lack perspective and don't deserve to be honored for playing a game.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 10:20 pm
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:11 pm to poochie
The frick is this stupidity? His jersey isn’t getting retired because he went to class. It gets retired because he bounce ball good.
Are you people high? What the hell does graduation have to do with anything, especially basketball where no one graduates.
Are you people high? What the hell does graduation have to do with anything, especially basketball where no one graduates.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:11 pm to Metaloctopus
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How do you know? People have finished school much older than that. If he had lived longer and still never graduated, then rules are rules. I don't think anyone should get special treatment.
Yet you just agreed that Maravich got special treatment even though he was 40 and previously expelled.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:15 pm to Metaloctopus
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You downvoters are what's wrong with society. Entitled, touchy-feely people. You play a game with a free scholarship, but don't finish school? No favors.)
There are kids playing in your yard again
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:16 pm to Salviati
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Your opinion counts for shite.
You didn't even know he was expelled.
It counts no less than what your potty mouth can spout off.
I know all about Maravich, the player. I know about what he did at the end of his life. I haven't followed much about his personal life in college, other than hearing that he was somewhat socially awkward, because basketball was his whole life, at that time.
Maybe he would have finished his degree, maybe he wouldn't have. but he was a good man at the end, and I think he would have eventually liked to have finished school.
But considering that never got to happen, I think naming an arena after him is plenty.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:18 pm to Metaloctopus
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Even though he was here for four years, he somehow did not graduate. I would like to know how that's possible.
Only losers graduate from college in four years
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:18 pm to clamdip
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Shirley we offer a degree in Muslim Studies these days.
Is that your passive-aggressive way of criticizing his religion?
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:18 pm to Tigerfan56
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There are kids playing in your yard again
Like you? I'm 32, not some grumpy old man. You earn respect in this world, or you don't get it. Anyone who believes otherwise, is nothing but an entitled juvenile.
Maybe you can think of a thoughtful response, next time.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:21 pm to tigerskin
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Yet you just agreed that Maravich got special treatment even though he was 40 and previously expelled.
And I said he SHOULDN'T have gotten special treatment. Did you miss that?
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:23 pm to Cap Crunch
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Only losers graduate from college in four years
What the crap is this supposed to mean?
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:25 pm to Metaloctopus
Just explain why having completed a degree program is essential for having one's number retired
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:33 pm to Metaloctopus
quote:you and your ilk are a much bigger problem. You/they lack common sense. Why stop at a bs degree? or why a bs degree. That's just an arbitrary number of hours of classes. It has no conclusive meaning. College is to help prepare adults for life (not just careers). CJ came and did that for 2 years. It was best for him to move on. No reason to punish that.
You downvoters are what's wrong with society. Entitled, touchy-feely people. You play a game with a free scholarship, but don't finish school? No favors.
However, let's be practical. Retiring jerseys is a recruiting tool. Absolutely shooting ourselves in the foot with the arbitrary, meaningless rules.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:33 pm to Sun God
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Just explain why having completed a degree program is essential for having one's number retired
Number 1, it's the rule.
Number 2, if you think it's a bad rule, I'll explain why it isn't: I've already stated it several times in this thread, but I'll say it again. When you get a scholarship to play sports, it's understood that you have academic requirements to reach. College is supposed to be about education. These guys get a free ride because they're good at sports. Fine... Just as long as you do your part academically. Skylar Mays is getting a real degree in a field that matters, and he's a phenomenal student. Somehow he manages to still play basketball at a pretty high level. Imagine that?
That's someone who deserves to be honored. If you use school as a springboard for your sports career, which is fine, BUT have no intention of honoring your academic commitments, then you are free to pursue your interests, while the university owes you no recognition.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:40 pm to Metaloctopus
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:45 pm to Metaloctopus
Lol @ using "it's the rule dammit" as an argument. You've already been proven wrong about that and it's a lame viewpoint even if you weren't.
Using Mays as an example is possibly the biggest use of an outlier I've ever seen
I assume you think Rudy Niswanger is one of the only football players deserving of recognition?
Using Mays as an example is possibly the biggest use of an outlier I've ever seen
I assume you think Rudy Niswanger is one of the only football players deserving of recognition?
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:45 pm to KC Tiger
Please don’t show your ignorance.
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:45 pm to arcalades
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you and your ilk are a much bigger problem. You/they lack common sense. Why stop at a bs degree? or why a bs degree. That's just an arbitrary number of hours of classes. It has no conclusive meaning. College is to help prepare adults for life (not just careers). CJ came and did that for 2 years. It was best for him to move on. No reason to punish that.
However, let's be practical. Retiring jerseys is a recruiting tool. Absolutely shooting ourselves in the foot with the arbitrary, meaningless rules.
My "ilk"?
You mean people like me, who believe in finishing what you start? Honoring a commitment?
I don't care how many hours the requirement is. Finish school. How is there no conclusive meaning to getting an education? The problem today, again, is that so many people get a degree in something completely useless. That's a university problem. but if you can't EVEN finish your degree, however useless it may be, then what exactly has college prepared you for? Why should you get recognition?
What did college prepare Chris Jackson for in life? To be a flag hater? To play 3 on 3 basketball?
If anyone, as a teacher, wants to prepare young people for life, then you can't do that by enabling them to quit, for whatever reason they want, because they think they know best how to handle their future. You make excuses for some, and you set an example for all. That's real life.
But don't let that get in the way of your "modern" sensibilities, and believing that personal preferences outweigh the cost of an ill-informed and ignorant society.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:48 pm to Metaloctopus
Leaving to go to the NBA is a lot different than dropping out of college
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:48 pm to tigerskin
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Confirmation of Maravich getting expelled
Why are you posting this? I already believed you, because I looked it up myself. And, once more, I said he shouldn't have been given any special treatment in spite of it. Meaning I hold him to no less of a standard, than I would hold anyone else to. Simple.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 2/25/19 at 10:48 pm to tigerskin
he Was a great player.
But no degree.
Sorry.
But no degree.
Sorry.
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 10:56 pm
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