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re: Can we revisit the bama player trying to kill Daniels?

Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:27 pm to
Clean no hit. There are better things to bitch about.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50372 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Play still caused JD’s head to bounce on turf. So much for avoiding concussions



Had it been the other way, LSU would have been penalized 11 out of 10 times. No two ways about this.

I expect games to be rigged, but the ones that make me the most frustrated are when the officials allow player safety to be compromised in order to protect the team they are rigging the game for. Just disgusting, especially at the amateur level.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8651 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:43 pm to
Football is football. But the refs picking up the flag was stupid. That is one safety rule that should be thrown 100% of the time. That hit can ruin people.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:52 pm to
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But it sure looked like a personal foul for a late hit on a defenseless player.



he barely touched him though. I understand why BK and our fans are pissed bc like BK was yelling at the ref "why did you throw the flag"
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
751 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Clean no hit. There are better things to bitch about.


Agree there are better things to bitch about. And it's probably not targeting.
But it wasn't clean. There was contact. Looks like Daniels mostly deflected it with his forearms, so it doesn't look like there was forceable contact to the head/neck area. So, not targeting (even if it's what the tackler intended).

But no contact is allowed after the runner gives himself up by sliding. The tackler was 5+ yards away when Daniels starts his slide. He had plenty of time/space to pull up. He makes contact, so it's a personal foul. Just not targeting.
Posted by Bossierboy
Bossier
Member since Sep 2005
663 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 1:54 pm to
Game is over. Let’s go beat that piggy arse.
Posted by blkssr
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2009
293 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:01 pm to
Read the rule: ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. When in question, it is a foul. ...

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indications of targeting (emphasis NCAA's) include but are not limited to:

Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

Now, it says to take "AIM" doesn't say player has to make contact.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:22 pm to
Not really upset by the call, but there was contact. In the still shot posted above there is at least forearm contact with Daniel’s forearm.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:27 pm to
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Launching himself at Daniels as he slides. F that trash. I was HEATED


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Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:28 pm to
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Now, it says to take "AIM" doesn't say player has to make contact.


I am a bit tired of this targetting rule. It should only be called when it is obvious on the field and shouldn't need to be determined by replay. What bothers me is ball carriers lower their head and use the crown of the helmet all the time. I have seen too many called that shouldn't have been and vice versa...it's too subjective no matter how they write the rules that make up targeting.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21054 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Clean no hit. There are better things to bitch about.


Sorry, that was hit, just not what the player intended. Had he did what he intended, Daniels would have been knocked out. It was not targeting but it was a personal foul. That would have been called on an LSU player.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36122 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Sorry, that was hit, just not what the player intended. Had he did what he intended, Daniels would have been knocked rocked. It was not targeting but it was a personal foul. That would have been called on an LSU player.


Bingo

It wasn’t targeting, but it was hitting a player that slid to give up himself.

It should have been 15 yards and no one tossed.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11747 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:13 pm to
Ok then both announcers, their contact in the booth and refs on the field met before they they picked up the flag - they all got it wrong. Lol

So if the roles were reversed would you be pissed if a flag was thrown and uphold on a lsu player?
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20916 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:21 pm to
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Read the rule: ARTICLE 4. No player shall target


Can we all at least agree that it should have been a personal foul? You can't hit a QB after they start their slide...regardless of how hard or physical the hit was...right? The goal of this specific penalty is to correct the behavior of hitting a QB while in that position. The goal isn't to just lessen the blow of the QB getting hit in this position.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted by BigGreenTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2022
253 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:28 pm to
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The intent was there, but he completely missed Daniels.


... Or he pulled back like he should have done because Daniels was sliding.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18147 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:35 pm to
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But no contact is allowed after the runner gives himself up by sliding. The tackler was 5+ yards away when Daniels starts his slide. He had plenty of time/space to pull up. He makes contact, so it's a personal foul. Just not targeting.
if the teams were reversed, and it was an LSU defender and Bryce Young was sliding, would you be screaming for a personal foul call on our guy????

Of course not!!! You'd ay there was barely any contact and, regardless of intent, the defender missed, and the refs were biased to protect Young.

The refs got this one right. Let it go.
Posted by Bushido
Member since Oct 2022
293 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:18 pm to
They did that several times. Saban's Bama teams are trashy.
Posted by Bushido
Member since Oct 2022
293 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:21 pm to
Stay in Texas fig
Posted by Purple N Gold Blood
Gods country
Member since Sep 2009
2999 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:23 pm to
Yea looking at your image . It’s targeting for sure . Only if the jerseys are switched lol
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36880 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:26 pm to
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"There was no targeting. The player missed."

Intent is thrown out the window when it comes to Bama players
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