re: Can we agree that Miles is the greatest LSU football coach...ever?

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just did tonight what McClendon could never do, he beat the myth and reputation that Bama could not be beaten when the Tide was at their best.

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Well said!!! And all due respect to Coach McClendon, but well said!

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what part did u not understand. I gave my vote and the reason for my vote.

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Oh, so I understood you correctly. It's just your reasoning that's faulty and ill founded. Maybe you're distracted because you have someone's balls in your mouth.

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weak

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Meh, not as weak as your faulty premise. Following a highly successful coach, installing your system and recruiting and then actually improving and maintaining the program is at least as difficult as rebuilding a program that has all the ingredients for success but has underperformed for years.

Yes

Best lsu coach sure, he has been here longer than saban, who is a better coach in general

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Les is the only LSU coach to inherit National Championship caliber players.

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so this years team was inherited from saban? Will that be your excuse when we win it all? it is a a bad one because saban's players have long since been gone! LOL. YOU STILL HAVE TO COACH EM UP. and he did that in 07. So miles should be punished for inheriting players he won a championship with? so saban should be punsihed for winning with shula's players in 09? Meyer winning with zooks players in 06? Coker for winning with Davis's players in 01?

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No other coach whoever walked the sidelines in Tiger Stadium will have "Coached Two National Championship Teams" next to his name

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kinda' getting ahead of ourselves, here. We would still have to beat the #8 team in the country (who seems to have our number), Georgia (at home), followed by the #2 team in the country. This is a recipe for blowing it.

Miles is the best. Look objectively at what Saban did here:

Mark Emmert had recently won control of the program from the "good ol' boy" network, and wanted to drag it (kicking and screaming) into professionality and the modern world.
LSU had potential, had always had potential. Saban took over a program that had very recently humiliated his Michigan St team in a bowl, and had carte blanc to do whatever he felt necessary. He came at a time when Florida was about to lose Spurrier and decline, and Alabama was behind Auburn. Saban brought in a sense of professionality and re-established us as bowl-worthy. In the process he was able to upset Tennessee and expose an overrated Illinois team in the Sugar in 01(our first BCS bowl win, but let's not kid ourselves- we weren't going to a BCS bowl before we stunned the Vols). Saban went back and forth with Auburn in the West (pretty sure they just traded home wins during his tenure).

2003 turned into magic, because fighting with Auburn and Georgia in the early 2000s gave us the impetus to play and beat anyone that year. For God's sake, don't be blind to the fact that giving Saban a month to prepare his defense to stop Oklahoma (right after Kansas St showed how to do it), and for LSU to play for the national title in NEW ORLEANS, gave LSU plenty of advantage. It was an electric home game for us.

Outside of that year, Saban firmly established us as a top-15 program with a menacing, pro-style defense. He won us our first title in half a century, and to do that after Fla dominated the prior decade was fantastic (all titles are). We then dropped back into a solid but not special team the following year, as we fought hard to beat some teams, and Georgia beat the hell out of us, and we looked bad in the bowl against Iowa (I seem to remember the announcers saying we had the most losses for a defending champion in quite a few years). Regarding that bowl game, people focused on the last second TD, but let's not forget we had to rally to take the lead late in a game we were supposed to handle.
Then, he left.

Nobody knew who Miles was, and he looked and spoke goofy. But his 05, 06, and 10 teams were all better than Saban's 01 team (his second best), and 09 equaled 04 right down to the disappointing Cap One bowl. And bitch if you like about the 2 losses, but in 07 he matched Saban's 03 BCS title with one of his own.

Miles has done this against arguably a much better SEC- Meyer revived Fla and got 2 titles, Saban revived Bama and got one, and Chizik was finally able to win at Auburn where Tuberville hadn't, despite his Sabanesque run there.

And then we have this year, in which we are the unanimous #1 team late into the season, will get our 10th win against Western Kentucky unless an asteroid hits the campus, and the only question remaining is whether this is merely an extremely good team, or the best ever here.

Really- take a step back, forget the names involved, and just look at the seasons and the scores. This current coach is the best ever here.

Howard Schnellenberger won Miami's 1st title in 81, so you can say he built Miami; but Jimmy Johnson ran the U. Saban may have "built" LSU, but Miles is the guy running this program at elite status

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...Les is the only LSU coach to inherit National Championship caliber players.

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Cholly Mac inherited NC caliber players, just sayin.