- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Can LSU translate this increase in sports success to better ACADEMICS?
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:24 am
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:24 am
Looking for a serious debate here so if you are here to troll don’t bother.
I’m die hard LSU all the way but as a parent and Louisiana resident, I do want the flagship state university to also improve it’s academic profile in addition to athletics.
Hate the gumps but you have to admit that when you look at what they have been able to do in terms of translating their football success (and resulting revenues) into improving academics and attracting out of state students…it is impressive.
Not saying Bama is all of a sudden Vandy but know several extremely smart LA kids…all who’ve grown up LSU fans…who have ended up going to Bama bc they rolled out the red carpet, gave huge scholarships, and were just all around more impressive academically than LSU. Know many other kids/parents who would have chosen a different school other than LSU as well if they could afford it.
The brand, profile, and footprint of LSU sports has never been bigger/better. This has to be resulting in increased revenues and recruitment. Really hoping that LSU and State leaders don’t squander this golden opportunity to reinvest on the academic side of the university as well and help it rise up the ranks so we can keep more of our bright students in state.
I’m die hard LSU all the way but as a parent and Louisiana resident, I do want the flagship state university to also improve it’s academic profile in addition to athletics.
Hate the gumps but you have to admit that when you look at what they have been able to do in terms of translating their football success (and resulting revenues) into improving academics and attracting out of state students…it is impressive.
Not saying Bama is all of a sudden Vandy but know several extremely smart LA kids…all who’ve grown up LSU fans…who have ended up going to Bama bc they rolled out the red carpet, gave huge scholarships, and were just all around more impressive academically than LSU. Know many other kids/parents who would have chosen a different school other than LSU as well if they could afford it.
The brand, profile, and footprint of LSU sports has never been bigger/better. This has to be resulting in increased revenues and recruitment. Really hoping that LSU and State leaders don’t squander this golden opportunity to reinvest on the academic side of the university as well and help it rise up the ranks so we can keep more of our bright students in state.
50
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:25 am to TigerFan244
We’ll need Albert Einstein in CF and Steven Hawking throwing on Fridays.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 7:31 am
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:26 am to TigerFan244
Money is what matters. With NIL involved, I don’t see a lot of that going the academics way.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:32 am to TigerFan244
I think this is a very important topic/question. Definitely would like to see academics side of things improve. After all it’s what a university is all about, or should be lol!
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:46 am to TigerFan244
The last couple years LSU has received record amounts of donations from private companies (Shell, Chevron, OLOL, etc) and has begun to funnel those funds to really improve specific curriculums instead of just dispersing the money across the board and barely improving anything. I think Tate has a much more targeted approach when it comes to using donations than previous Presidents which is a good thing.
I think what you're starting to see as far as bringing athletics in is a unified marketing approach from both athletics and academics. Just recently, they used the Powerhouse marketing from baseball to market the energy research that LSU does, which was extremely smart imo.
I think what you're starting to see as far as bringing athletics in is a unified marketing approach from both athletics and academics. Just recently, they used the Powerhouse marketing from baseball to market the energy research that LSU does, which was extremely smart imo.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:58 am to TigerFan244
Alabama has proven that a great football program can raise the entire university’s academics. I don’t see any reason why a great all around athletic program doesn’t.
Athletics raises your brand making more people wanting to go to your school. With more applicants you can choose from a larger pool and get better qualified students that can help the school academically.
Athletics raises your brand making more people wanting to go to your school. With more applicants you can choose from a larger pool and get better qualified students that can help the school academically.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:36 am to TigerFan244
I agree - It would really make me proud to see LSU concentrate more on academic excellence.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:38 am to TigerFan244
Louisiana needs a culture change before academics matter as much as athletics. Money can't fix that.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 6:39 am
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:40 am to TigerFan244
If by reinvesting in the Academic side, you mean paying pretentious professors more money for nothing, then yes they are doing that quite well.
There isn't a bigger bunch of crybabies on campus than the professors. I/ve worked with them for 6 years.
There isn't a bigger bunch of crybabies on campus than the professors. I/ve worked with them for 6 years.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:44 am to lsu for the win
quote:
There isn't a bigger bunch of crybabies on campus than the professors
Exhibit A:
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:44 am to otowntiger
quote:
it’s what a university is all about, or should be lol!
tru dat.
I actually wish we had purely 'student athletes'
As much as I enjoy watching great athletic deeds - I wish that I could be proud of their academic potential as well as physical prowess.
But - of course this would be across the board for all 'universities'
I would not mind seeing purely "sports schools" funded by the professional sports leagues - which concentrate on non-academic oriented athletes. Professional sports is the only 'field' where this type person is going to become successful anyway.
That would allow the really talented athletes a route directly to their preferred future and not burden them with trying to 'find some trivial subject where they can 'earn' a passing grade for a couple of years.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:52 am to LSUTIGERS8181
But with winning and success comes money which improves building like the library. Went to lsu bama basketball a few years ago and their campus is in constant build. Apartments and condos going up around it. It all comes from winning.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:53 am to TigerFan244
My current college kid is on academic scholarship and the next one will be on an academic scholarship as well.
LSU was never a choice after they mandated the vaccine, discussed mandates for CRT/ AAAS, lighting up Tiger Stadium in George Floyd's HS colors, the shootings and murders close to campus, etc.
LSU was never a choice after they mandated the vaccine, discussed mandates for CRT/ AAAS, lighting up Tiger Stadium in George Floyd's HS colors, the shootings and murders close to campus, etc.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:53 am to TigerFan244
quote:
Hate the gumps but you have to admit that when you look at what they have been able to do in terms of translating their football success (and resulting revenues) into improving academics and attracting out of state students…it is impressive. Not saying Bama is all of a sudden Vandy but know several extremely smart LA kids…all who’ve grown up LSU fans…who have ended up going to Bama bc they rolled out the red carpet, gave huge scholarships, and were just all around more impressive academically than LSU. Know many other kids/parents who would have chosen a different school other than LSU as well if they could afford it.
LSU has a lower acceptance rate (71% vs 79%) and tighter ACT/SAT variance than Alabama. A quarter of accepted students at Alabama have an ACT below 21 vs a quarter being below 23 at LSU.
LSU Academics has a marketing problem more than anything else.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 6:56 am
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:54 am to TigerFan244
LSU has been applied to more, and has accepted more students YOY since we've made the switch to a more Holistic Admission approach. This incoming freshman class will be the biggest, and most accomplished incoming class we've ever had. We do not have an attraction problem with talented students.
Avg. GPA - 3.5-4.1
Avg. ACT - 23-29
We are graduating bigger classes every year too. We don't have an issue with academics. This is a story that we as alum can do a better job of telling. Please get involved with your local LSU Alumni chapter, so that as these types of conversations come up locally, you can help debunk the "LSU is a party school / LSU is a sports school" narrative. We are DAMN STRONG in academics. Dr. Tate and his team are doing a great job with recruiting talent at the research and fundraising level to continue to thrust us forward. The present is bright, and the future is brighter!
Avg. GPA - 3.5-4.1
Avg. ACT - 23-29
We are graduating bigger classes every year too. We don't have an issue with academics. This is a story that we as alum can do a better job of telling. Please get involved with your local LSU Alumni chapter, so that as these types of conversations come up locally, you can help debunk the "LSU is a party school / LSU is a sports school" narrative. We are DAMN STRONG in academics. Dr. Tate and his team are doing a great job with recruiting talent at the research and fundraising level to continue to thrust us forward. The present is bright, and the future is brighter!
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:59 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
As much as I enjoy watching great athletic deeds - I wish that I could be proud of their academic potential as well as physical prowess. But - of course this would be across the board for all 'universities' I would not mind seeing purely "sports schools" funded by the professional sports leagues - which concentrate on non-academic oriented athletes. Professional sports is the only 'field' where this type person is going to become successful anyway. That would allow the really talented athletes a route directly to their preferred future and not burden them with trying to 'find some trivial subject where they can 'earn' a passing grade for a couple of years.
This is some of the most condescending, holier-than-thou bullshite I’ve ever read.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:59 am to TigerFan244
I think it’s an ongoing process at the moment. Tate clearly has a vision of LSU being an excellent university in both the athletic arena, as well as the classroom.
I thought I would hate Tate when it was first announced that he’d become the president of the university, but he’s grown on me in the best way. I see academics improving over the course of the next 10-15 years.
I don’t know that LSU will ever be a top tier public university for academics, but they can certainly get to a place where academics aren’t viewed as a negative. Time will tell.
I thought I would hate Tate when it was first announced that he’d become the president of the university, but he’s grown on me in the best way. I see academics improving over the course of the next 10-15 years.
I don’t know that LSU will ever be a top tier public university for academics, but they can certainly get to a place where academics aren’t viewed as a negative. Time will tell.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:09 am to Cuz413
RE: CUZ413
I want to challenge your statements. There were never CRT/AAAS mandates on the table for kids attending LSU. Faculty members apart of the Faculty Senate proposed that based on the demographics of the campus (nearly 14% black), and the state of Louisiana as a whole (nearly 35% black), it should be considered. As we saw with the many initiatives made by companies nationwide, those in academia felt the need to offer similar ideas. Discussions, meeting topics, orchestrating a plan of implementation, etc. shouldn't be viewed as mandates.
Also, LSU's address and surrounding areas have been the same for as long as I can remember. Crime is an unfortunate reality of existence. I hope that the institution of choice for your kids is as close to perfect as the idea of a crimeless society.
And as always, when CRT comes up, I ask the author of the comment to explain to everyone what CRT is. And how it impacts learning, since it's viewed as this harsh brainwash grab.
I want to challenge your statements. There were never CRT/AAAS mandates on the table for kids attending LSU. Faculty members apart of the Faculty Senate proposed that based on the demographics of the campus (nearly 14% black), and the state of Louisiana as a whole (nearly 35% black), it should be considered. As we saw with the many initiatives made by companies nationwide, those in academia felt the need to offer similar ideas. Discussions, meeting topics, orchestrating a plan of implementation, etc. shouldn't be viewed as mandates.
Also, LSU's address and surrounding areas have been the same for as long as I can remember. Crime is an unfortunate reality of existence. I hope that the institution of choice for your kids is as close to perfect as the idea of a crimeless society.
And as always, when CRT comes up, I ask the author of the comment to explain to everyone what CRT is. And how it impacts learning, since it's viewed as this harsh brainwash grab.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:11 am to TigerFan244
This is what people forget sometimes. The athletic department is the university’s front porch. It is a soft entry point for people, and one of the first things people think of when they think of the school. It matters.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:14 am to TigerFan244
Alabama showed them the blueprint. Need to invest in improving campus infrastructure then start going after top out of state talent with scholarships.
Page 1 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News