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re: Burrow: "I don't think a lot of people are used to LSU scoring 40, 50, 60 points a game"

Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:11 am to
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:11 am to
If you baws could only see my erection
Posted by Tiger1988
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:12 am to
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I think he actually alluded to that burrow would have more opportunity to run this year since Brennan is healthy. At least, that's the way I took it.


I’m referring to Orgeron’s interviews last season at the end of the season - not what he recently said. The excuse was Brennan was hurt. He turned loose Burrow against Arky, TAMU and UCF. Only Arky had a decent defense of those three. I believe Brennan even got to play in one of those last games. Rice I think.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 8:15 am
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:23 am to
Actually, a&m finished with much higher total defense than Arkansas. They finished #32 in nation. Lsu played 8 defenses in the top 40 last year and 4 in the top 15. Had they played a big 12 schedule, yeah, you would have a point.
Posted by mhc4tigers
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:25 am to
Ok I have been an LSU fan since the 1960s. We have not always had the talent. We lost to Bama 13 years in a row from 70 to 83. We had bad teams for most of the 90s. Saban raised us from the dead. Miles maintained and was very very strong thru 2012. We have had good QBs 2003 2005/07. Mettenberger in 12/13. Now Burrow for one year. Our talent level on the line of,scrimmage went from parity with Bama in 2012 to getting dominated by Bama 2013 thru 2018.

Talent level has come up. Defensive line might be at parity with Bama. Offensive line was way behind 2015 thru 2018. We will go from decent offense to great offense if our Offensive line can pass protect. Our offensive line was 107 in the country for giving up sacks and tackles for,loss. Hoping that Improvement happens. That will be the difference between 9 and 3 and 11 and 1.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:34 am to
A&M’s defense wasn’t that good, they were helped greatly by their offense controlling the ball. They were in the 70’s in yards per play allowed, but top 5 in fewest defensive plays per game. That ranked them up there with notoriously slow paced teams like Army and Michigan.

To their credit, that probably means they were good on 3rd downs also.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 8:38 am
Posted by 62Tigerfan
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:44 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:21 am to
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Now, it appears, O and E are about to make them look like the dumbasses that THEY are


They hired a third guy to fix the offense.

If Brady fixes the offense it’s going to prove people right.

Hiring E instead of someone who can actually run a spread offense is something everyone should be critical off.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:26 am to
He’s got so much heart and toughness. He’s gonna be an LSU legend just bc he’s tough as hell. Absolutely love the way he plays

Posted by AlxPin
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:31 am to
So you just made my point. You just basically said if the offense is successful this year, credit goes to Brady, not E or O. Instead of being excited about the subject of this thread, you would rather bash prior years. You do you I guess. Me, I'll be excited about the changes o and e made, if in fact they prove successful.

What do you say about lsu outscoring every sec west team even this past year in conference play, despite playing the toughest sec schedule?
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:37 am to
Oh, so their #32 total ranking is a hoax. Got it. Does that mean lsu's #25 ranking was also a hoax? I haven't looked it up, but I'd think lsu would be up there in top. Also, that great offense you speak of, I wonder why lsu scored more points in sec regulation play than a&m?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:38 am to
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It's actually pretty comical. Instead of being happy about the potential change, my guess is that these "special" posters have spent a lot of time and effort bashing E and O, and telling everyone what failures they are. Now, it appears, O and E are about to make them look like the dumbasses that THEY are. Two things are for sure. These are miserable people, and they can't stand being wrong.


Yup. Pretty much sums up the O-Bashers.

If O succeeds in '19, then they are proven to be idiots about the game of college football. The days of their football cred are numbered... and it is driving them batshit crazy!!
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 9:42 am
Posted by Tiger1988
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:55 am to
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Actually, a&m finished with much higher total defense than Arkansas. They finished #32 in nation.
go check out PASS defense. Those bragging on here about Burrow tossing it are full of shite when you look at the defenses they played. Use the first half stats against TAMU where the DEFENSE bailed LSU out to ensure a tie.
28 points against those sorry SOBs.
Posted by TigerScribe
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:59 am to
As Joe Brady himself recently said, you don't respond to defensive pressure by playing max protect. That is conceding defeat and playing simply to avoid yardage loss and turnovers rather than playing to move the ball and score. In max protect, you give the defense a numbers advantage in coverage. You have to do the opposite and pressure the defense through multiple receiver sets to force individual coverage and create space through a short, quick passing game that gets the ball out quickly and gives receivers a change to get yards after the catch in space. The RPOs, if used effectively, help as well, as does being able to run multiple plays out of one formation to disguise tendencies.

LSU's offense has been missing several concepts that other good passing offenses use with regularity to keep the defense honest. Many of our pass plays are intermediate to deep routes, which means deeper drop backs and longer developing routes. You need those, but without a short, quick passing game and variability of formations to reduce predictability and balance deeper routes, you create a more difficult situation for your o-line in which to pass protect and a situation where the defense can more easily determine and settle into a certain pre-snap coverage.
Posted by rrboy
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:04 am to
Dude’s got it!!!
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:09 am to
Love that dude
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:18 am to
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You just basically said if the offense is successful this year, credit goes to Brady, not E or O.
If it works I'll give coach O credit for finally fixing the offense on his third try. This is his 3rd system in three years fwiw. I also think it's fair to say the majority of the credit should go to Brady. O&E were here last year and the offense was bad. So if the offense suddenly becomes good after adding a third person, then it should be fair to say that the third person is the main reason for the improvement and not the other two, especially when you take into consideration the coaching history of the other two coaches.

And as far as looking back on previous years instead of focusing on this one, you weren't here last year when all this hype about a new upgraded passing system with Sullivan was being touted all over this board. So quit acting all high and mighty like the people who are skeptical are tards and have no reason not to believe the hype.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 10:24 am
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:29 am to
Ok Joe, stop! I’m already hard.
Posted by The Jackson 4
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:44 am to
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:52 am to
I just don't understand why you guys completely ignore the complete lack of returning production last year on offense. I guess I'm more objective on the issue. You can overcome one or two question marks on offense, not a complete overhaul in starters, system, coaches, etc. They were inconsistent, as expected, but good at times. Brady will add something to the offense, but E will still be calling the plays. Nothing wrong with that at all.

As for last year, that had to be trolls talking positive smack about the offense. They basically had an entirely new starting offense, plagued with OL injuries and suspensions, and the loss of pettigrew. Also, burrow had never started and had been on campus a couple months. Logic would say they would struggle.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 10:54 am to
nvm
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 10:57 am
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