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re: Burrow: "I don't think a lot of people are used to LSU scoring 40, 50, 60 points a game"
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:26 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:26 pm to BigBrod81
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The easiest way to offset those issues are to run the ball & max protect in passing situations. That's why Joe was put under center. Now with a full offseason under his belt, you can open things up because of the familiarity that ALL the players have on offense.
We put him under center the first game, and idk how a QB is going to get the ball out faster take a 5-7 step drop than he will out of the shotgun.
And the Joe brady just came out and said adding blockers just lets them bring more defenders.
And we can only put so many in so many places. Defenses can always bring people in one area and get the numbers they want.
That’s what Aranda is all about. He won’t bring 7 but he’ll bring 1-2 guys in an area where we get the number advantage we want
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:27 pm to BigBrod81
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Had the Tigers had a better offensive line in 2013, that game would have been down to the wire
They had a chance to control the whole game without a fumble on the 1st rive inside the 5. And while I agree, when METT had to basically crawl off the field the game had been well decided.... FACT Bama SMOKED LSU in 2013. the oline had just as much as the whole team and coaching staff to get a beatdown like that.........
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:29 pm to dgnx6
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They ran play action against bama inside our 20. You are dead wrong. It was November. Not the first game.
How quickly do you think a QB can learn an offense? Burrow himself said it was a challenge being he came in so late. It doesn't matter if it was a game in November, when your QB doesn't have much to watch film heading into the season on what is being run offensively, every game will be a learning experience on the fly. It's not as easy as you think you believe it is.
Also, was the offense scheme that the other 10+ personnel started to learning in the spring prior to Burrow transferring just supposed to change just like that right before the start of fall camp? Do you even realize how challenging that is? Some of you guys don't actually think some of your thoughts or posts through before posting.
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Other teams have been able to insert QBs with less experience with the team and not have to use that shite.
Oh, like Trevor Lawrence? Everybody remembers the final outcome but not everyone remembers that he was brought along slowly last season, splitting reps with Kelly Bryant until he was actually fully ready to start.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:33 pm to Ryan3232
I wonder about some of you guys sometimes.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:37 pm to BigBrod81
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Burrow took a beating because the offense line couldn't hold up the majority of the time in pass pro. The easiest way to offset those issues are to run the ball & max protect in passing situations
No. No it’s not.
It’s a quick passing game with slants, bubbles, screens and quick outs. Like most modern offenses are run....outside of the antiquated offense LSU has run for years.
And I’ll add it’s probably the type offense Joe was promised before he transferred here. I sincerely hope this season he gets the opportunity to run it.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:42 pm to BigBrod81
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Not when you have a QB that hasn't had much time to get his timing down with his receivers.
Dude. Come on. Freshmen qbs that have never taken a college snap, much less have perfect timing with his receivers, successfully run a modern offense all over the nation. Ensminger just has no clue how to run it. Let’s just admit it. Hopefully this is the year LSUs offense finally enters the modern age.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:45 pm to SammyTiger
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We put him under center the first game, and idk how a QB is going to get the ball out faster take a 5-7 step drop than he will out of the shotgun.
Again, after already going through spring practices & the spring game, how are you gonna change the offense completely for the other 10 starters & other heavy rotation players in order to replicate what Ohio St was doing to make Joe more comfortable?
It's a lot easier to throttle down what you had planned to run to something very basic & go from there to help ease Burrow in than to change up everything that all your offensive players were already learning.
These are people & computer programmed animations like on Madden where you pick a play they run routes they are programmed to run.
Everything is timing based. 3, 5, 7 step drops are coordinated with routes being run in designed play. 3 step drop for shorter routes, outs, ins, curls & slants and with each drop, the routes are longer. When a QB reaches his top of his drop the receiver should be about to he at the top of his route.
Some of you are being unrealistic with how the offense should have been run last season & ultimately how the players performed with all factors being considered.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:48 pm to geauxjo
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Freshmen qbs that have never taken a college snap, much less have perfect timing with his receivers, successfully run a modern offense all over the nation.
List these true freshman QBs please?
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Ensminger just has no clue how to run it.
I'm far from being a fan of his as offensive coordinator but that doesn't mean I will just overlook the difficult position he was in a year ago.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:51 pm to geauxjo
quote:Name one who showed up in June. You're talking about Freshman who enrolled in January.
Dude. Come on. Freshmen qbs that have never taken a college snap,
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:52 pm to BigBrod81
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How quickly do you think a QB can learn an offense? Burrow himself said it was a challenge being he came in so late. It doesn't matter if it was a game in November, when your QB doesn't have much to watch film heading into the season on what is being run offensively, every game will be a learning experience on the fly. It's not as easy as you think you believe it is.
This is a stupid argument. How much film was there on an offensive that hadn’t seen the field under Ensminger yet? You act like we we’re running some super complex scheme for years. The problem is O and E had no clue how to mold their offense to Burrow’s skill set. Like less than zero clue how to use him effectively until like week 12. They had less of a clue on how to help out a struggling line. fricking SELU abused our line and still no changes were made. You had O letting E and Sullivan implement an ancient scheme.
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Also, was the offense scheme that the other 10+ personnel started to learning in the spring prior to Burrow transferring just supposed to change just like that right before the start of fall camp? Do you even realize how challenging that is? Some of you guys don't actually think some of your thoughts or posts through before posting.
It just shows you how unprepared O and E we’re going into 2018. Could you imagine running that offense with Brennan? Holy shite.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 10:52 pm to geauxjo
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It’s a quick passing game with slants, bubbles, screens and quick outs. Like most modern offenses are run....
Put your PS4 controller down, turn Madden off & go to bed.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:02 pm to BigBrod81
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ut your PS4 controller down, turn Madden off & go to bed.
Only if you stop watching replays of the 1978 Cotton Bowl.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:04 pm to MightyYat
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This is a stupid argument.
So Burrow is stupid? Got it, because he basically said he was learning on the fly all season long & didn't have much opportunity to develop timing with his receivers.
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How much film was there on an offensive that hadn’t seen the field under Ensminger yet?
I'm pretty sure the coaches & players watch film from the practices & spring games. You also had film of what was run during the 2016 season when E took over for Cam Cameron.
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You act like we we’re running some super complex scheme for years. The problem is O and E had no clue how to mold their offense to Burrow’s skill set. Like less than zero clue how to use him effectively until like week 12.
You ever stopped to think that maybe Joe was becoming more knowledgeable about the offense they were running hence he started to play better later in the season?
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They had less of a clue on how to help out a struggling line. fricking SELU abused our line and still no changes were made. You had O letting E and Sullivan implement an ancient scheme.
I clearly said the offense was a mess for the majority of last season but only an idiot would single out one factor as the reason for the struggles when it was actually several factors but go right ahead believing whatever it is you want to believe.
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It just shows you how unprepared O and E we’re going into 2018. Could you imagine running that offense with Brennan? Holy shite.
See this is the retarded shite you only see on the Rant. Do you honestly believe they would have run as much zone read with Brennan as they did with Burrow?
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:06 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Name one who showed up in June. You're talking about Freshman who enrolled in January.
You think I’m criticizing Joe? I think Joe was led on with the promises of an offense that didn’t exist to get him here. I believe this season we may see that offense.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:08 pm to geauxjo
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Only if you stop watching replays of the 1978 Cotton Bowl.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:19 pm to Jack Crevalle
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:37 pm to Jack Crevalle
I love Joe
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:39 pm to geauxjo
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You think I’m criticizing Joe? I think Joe was led on with the promises of an offense that didn’t exist to get him here. I believe this season we may see that offense.
"Led on"??? LOL!!!
Joe's dad and brothers were in on the LSU decision. All played Div 1 football, and dad was a college coach for 35+ years. They ALL know it takes time to turn a "ground and pound" program into one with a solid passing game.
From what I hear, the Burrow's have nothing but respect and appreciation for O & E.
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:44 pm to BigBrod81
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I clearly said the offense was a mess for the majority of last season but only an idiot would single out one factor as the reason for the struggles when it was actually several factors but go right ahead believing whatever it is you want to believe.
It was two things. The oline couldn’t protect the QB and our RBs had zero vision or big play ability.
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See this is the retarded shite you only see on the Rant. Do you honestly believe they would have run as much zone read with Brennan as they did with Burrow?
What kind of offense do you think they were planning on running with Myles? There’s no way they were going to put him under center for those long arse developing plays. There’s just no way. If it was then the staff was more out of touch than most even expected. Brennan took snaps exclusively out of the shotgun his entire life.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:55 pm to MightyYat
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The oline couldn’t protect the QB and our RBs had zero vision or big play ability.
It was more than just those 2 factors.
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What kind of offense do you think they were planning on running with Myles? There’s no way they were going to put him under center for those long arse developing plays. There’s just no way.
Unless you were on the staff, you have no clue what they were gonna run & neither do I.
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