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re: BRPD releasing the Koy Moore bodycam footage this afternoon.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:04 pm to GoneFishing21
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:04 pm to GoneFishing21
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If you were walking somewhere at night with your family and saw two guys hiding behind a car, would you think nothing of it? Or would you suspect it may be unsafe for you and your family and you need to get away from there? It’s okay for a regular citizen to be suspicious or even fear something may be up, but they police shouldn’t be able to be suspicious of that and investigate it? Why not?
Because I am Not a legal representative of the state.
If you saw two suspicious people and pulled a gun on them and they weren’t doing anything that would be a crime.
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It’s really not. Sorry.
It is sorry.
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Isn’t it nice to have foreknowledge like you? That and hindsight are wonderful things, aren’t they? They don’t have to worry about getting stopped by cops if they aren’t engaged in suspicious behavior.
So basically you’re saying the gut instinct of a cop is more Important than our freedoms.
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:04 pm to Decatur
The cops missed the dope/gun. It was there, they didn’t look hard enough.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:06 pm to Lester Earl
quote:According to you, only some of that encounter has to do with race. The rest has to do with the officers' precognitive abilities.
You need to figure out what you want to talk about. You are not in position for this gotcha moment you keep shooting for lol
But I'm the one who's lost?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:08 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
The old dope in the tailpipe trick.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:09 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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According to you, only some of that encounter has to do with race. The rest has to do with the officers' precognitive abilities.
But I'm the one who's lost?
Yes. Because the stop was customary & justified
The ensuing reaction was rooted in blackness
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:09 pm to Bulletproof Lover
Yall need to stop with the insinuations. You know they were probably just practicing their routes in the garage before all the harassment started.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:10 pm to Lester Earl
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The ensuing reaction was rooted in blackness
Was their unwillingness to put their hands on the car rooted from their blackness too?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Because I am Not a legal representative of the state
Irrelevant. All the more reason for police to investigate since its their job and not yours.
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If you saw two suspicious people and pulled a gun on them and they weren’t doing anything that would be a crime.
This isn’t what happened. You already know that though.
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So basically you’re saying the gut instinct of a cop is more Important than our freedoms.
No, you’re implying that if no criminal charge comes from suspicion then the cops are automatically unjustified. If you would have the same “gut feeling” out at night with your family then why can’t the cops have it? You have a right against unreasonableness. What the cops did was found to be reasonable. That means that no one’s freedoms were unconstitutionally infringed upon.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:12 pm to Lester Earl
quote:What reaction? The false claims of harassment by the football player? The lies and garbage narrative he spun?
The ensuing reaction was rooted in blackness
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:12 pm to Chad504boy
quote:It was profiling. They were hassling every black person who was hiding from them and refusing to obey lawful orders.
Was their unwillingness to put their hands on the car rooted from their blackness too?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:13 pm to Lester Earl
Unfortunately Lester the US Supreme Court disagrees with you. The Court has said number of times the following :
1) Its impossible for an officer to know who is concealing a weapon at any given time ; and
2) The safety of the officer , suspect and general public is paramount.
As a result ,the first things officers are allowed to do when conducting a “Terry” stop is to make sure the person they are contacting does not have a weapon. This generally means instructions to put hands on a car and then a “Terry” pat search. If the suspect is not compliant , the suspect can be handcuffed until the “frisk” is complete.
1) Its impossible for an officer to know who is concealing a weapon at any given time ; and
2) The safety of the officer , suspect and general public is paramount.
As a result ,the first things officers are allowed to do when conducting a “Terry” stop is to make sure the person they are contacting does not have a weapon. This generally means instructions to put hands on a car and then a “Terry” pat search. If the suspect is not compliant , the suspect can be handcuffed until the “frisk” is complete.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:14 pm to SammyTiger
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I don’t agree that cops should just be able to stop someone just because of their “indicative behavior”
Let's say it's 3:00 AM, and outside of the home where you and your family are sleeping, there is a van that three men are getting out of while wearing ski masks.
A cop is driving by at the exact moment they are getting out of the van but, since the men are only showing signs that are indicative of a crime, he drives past without stopping/questioning them.
You'd be okay with that...actually, this is what you WANT to see happen...is that correct?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:15 pm to michael corleone
I didn’t say it was illegal. There is nothing to disagree with over the legality
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:17 pm to Lester Earl
quote:So what's got your pussy so achy then? What hurt your feelings about the stop?
I didn’t say it was illegal. There is nothing to disagree with over the legality
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:18 pm to SammyTiger
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I don’t agree that cops should just be able to stop someone just because of their “indicative behavior”
Take it up with the courts.
Courts have said hiding from and/or fleeing from police officers when encountered constitutes reasonable suspicion to make a stop.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:19 pm to michael corleone
Unless you agree with every Supreme Court decision this is a legal argument not a moral argument.
I said in a thread a while back that the video would probably reveal something the cops were legally allowed to do that would just Pisa off anyone here if it happened to them:
I said in a thread a while back that the video would probably reveal something the cops were legally allowed to do that would just Pisa off anyone here if it happened to them:
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:20 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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So what's got your pussy so achy then? What hurt your feelings about the stop?
He feels that the cop would not have pulled his weapon if they were white. In other words, he's a race baiting, self hating piece of shite.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:20 pm to SammyTiger
I 100% would not be pissed at cops confronting me if I was hiding behind cars when they are called to a scene
Only a complete moron wouldn’t expect it
Only a complete moron wouldn’t expect it
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:21 pm to lsupride87
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I 100% would not be pissed at cops confronting me if I was hiding behind cars when they are called to a scene
Only a complete moron wouldn’t expect i
That’s really easy to say without a gun being pulled on you.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:21 pm to SammyTiger
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would just Pisa off anyone here if it happened to them
It would piss you off that the cops react a certain way because you don't comply? your idea of "Freedom" is bullshite
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