re: Brian Kelly Files Suit Against LSU

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I guess you are right, but I do think Kelly is still posturing for something not spelled out in the contract. Just a personal opinion but I don’t think he wants to look for a job anytime soon. I think that aspect of these contracts are often overlooked when we hear “guaranteed”. LSU can continue to be a pain in the arse about that over the next 5 years. It’s really the only obligation that would ever make these deals make sense. Given where Kelly is at in his career, he probably wants full autonomy of that situation. Again, just my personal opinion, but I think that part of whatever settlement offer he received made him not take it.

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LSU reportedly offered $25 million and then offered $30 million spread over 2 payments. So the NPV spread over 2 payments is actually less than $30 million. NPV of the contractually-obligated buyout in a single lump sum payment would be something like $44.5 million at 6% APY.

Elimination of offsets and duty to mitigate is certainly a carrot, but is it a carrot that’s worth $15 million? I don’t think so.

LSU can make it a pain in the arse for him but realistically it’s something he only has to deal with once each year (during “hiring season” at the end of the year). If he wants to retire, I don’t think it’s really that hard to deal with the duty to mitigate. Also - somewhat ironically - if LSU drags him through the mud it might actually make it easier for him to avoid work.

I think there’s probably a number between the $30 million LSU offered and the $45ish million NPV that Kelly would agree to. But this lawsuit is basically cutting through the strong-arm tactics and forcing LSU to shite or get off the pot. Either prove you can fire him with cause or stop bluffing. If LSU actually has a legitimate argument to fire with cause (including an argument as to why proper notice wasn’t given) it could work out in LSU’s favor. But I have to assume Kelly’s side is pretty confident considering they immediately filed a lawsuit when LSU made the threat.

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So you are operating under the assumption that this is the only possible cause

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Unless something happened the week of the A&M game, lsu did not move on any incident that may have happen “for cause.”

I guess I should have expected that there would still be delusion lsu fan boys even over something so blatantly obvious

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You have terrible reading comprehension and have proven it several times. LSU did not, and still has not, claimed cause.

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So what does this mean?

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According to a copy of the suit obtained by ESPN, "LSU's representatives had a call with Coach Kelly's representatives, where LSU took the position that Coach Kelly had not been formally terminated and informed Coach Kelly's representatives, for the very first time, that LSU believed grounds for termination for cause existed."

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Terminated by the rant.

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Veteran attorney Tom Mars, who has represented multiple high-profile college coaches in employment disputes, sharply criticized LSU’s approach; “No school has ever won a ‘termination for cause’ lawsuit — even when they could allege grounds with a straight face,” Mars said via X (formerly Twitter). “Thus, it seems unlikely that LSU could set a new precedent when everyone in college sports is laughing at them for taking a position that’s absolutely absurd.”

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On3 article

Just when we thought we could turn the page on the shenanigans. Rousse needs to get involved and bring in some competent adults to nip this in the bud.

This is pretty misleading...

Schools don't win suits because more often than not the case gets privately settled. I think LSU has some dirt they're gonna use to try and force a reduced buyout because he wouldn't take their offer.

this is just lawyers lawyering, it's what they do, I don't see the issue here.

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LSU is going to get destroyed in court if they let it get that far.

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Too bad they aren’t going to court. They will settle between 35m and 40m soon

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Elimination of offsets and duty to mitigate is certainly a carrot, but is it a carrot that’s worth $15 million? I don’t think so.

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Would this be the same as saying he doesn’t think he can, or isn’t planning to make more than $15M (or PV of that figure) over the next 5 years? For someone that actually wants to work (and thinks he’s worth $10M/year, because that’s what his current contract says), that seems like a pretty damn good deal. As of right now, he could make $50M and it would all got LSU. He takes the deal, and he nets $35M.

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Also - somewhat ironically - if LSU drags him through the mud it might actually make it easier for him to avoid work.

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I was suggesting he could get sued by LSU for not pursuing work. Could be pretty costly for him and potentially free for LSU.

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But I have to assume Kelly’s side is pretty confident considering they immediately filed a lawsuit when LSU made the threat.

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Or they are trying to start the clock on LSU because they didn’t follow notification procedures. Or LSU never said that at all and are trying to make them act quickly to avoid embarrassment.

I just popped the contract open…had LSU given written notice of termination at all? It seems like he is still employed if they haven’t. If that’s the case, this isn’t as cut and dry as a lot of people are saying. The whole 7 days notice thing seems irrelevant at this point - either way, he should have received notice of termination in order for LSU to terminate the contract. With settlement negotiations ongoing, it seems like the termination hasn’t actually happened.

There are a lot more reasons he could have been fired for cause that are somewhat soft and may make more sense to settle than litigate. Failure or refusal to perform stated duties seem to be overlooked. Among other things, some rumors suggesting the last fight had to do with coaching changes could actually result in termination with cause…

I also just read Kelly’s email for the first time. He was trying to document the termination, making sure it was unilateral. Didn’t realize that before. I think he has been scheming this since he was on the sidelines.

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Unless something happened the week of the A&M game, lsu did not move on any incident that may have happen “for cause.”

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Yeah I’d say the week he got fired is the most likely week something may have happen for him to get fired.