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re: Brian Kelly chewing out Ramos.

Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Yeahright
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:01 am to
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The decision to kick the ball there was not the wrong one because if he elected to spike it there is always the possibility that the clock runs out


BS. Kelly should have had Nuss spike the ball. It's not rocket science and you have video to back you up in case the clock strikes zero instead of 1 or 2 seconds. This play is all on Kelly.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:02 am to
Nuss wasn’t in the game

LSU fans don’t watch sports
Posted by Yeahright
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:05 am to
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Nuss wasn’t in the game


I watched the game. Nuss said he was ready to go in the game. Did you watch that? Guess what? I don't hate Kelly either. I do think he is struggling right now because he THOUGHT his team would be much better than they are.
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:05 am to
Ramos didn’t listen…

Or maybe didn’t understand?

Maybe a language barrier?
Posted by Yeahright
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:11 am to
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Ramos didn’t listen…


Listen to what?
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:18 am to
Ramos was late on his approach to the ball. The ball was already placed before he began approach. A kicker normally needs to begin his approach when the ball is halfway to the holder. This was a timing issue and that is what Kelly was chewing him out about
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:22 am to
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Ramos was late on his approach to the ball. The ball was already placed before he began approach. A kicker normally needs to begin his approach when the ball is halfway to the holder. This was a timing issue and that is what Kelly was chewing him out about
That seems like something a Special Teams coach should iron out. Maybe Kelly should chew that idiot out... who is he again?
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:23 am to
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You would think some of you would actually know the rules before coming on here to complain.


That’d wipe out 95% of TD posts.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:24 am to
in NCAA football if you spike the ball with 3 seconds or less the clock will run out

NCAA Rule 3 Section 2 Article 5

Example

Minimum Time For A Play After Spiking The Ball–ARTICLE 5

Approved Ruling 3-2-5

I. Late in a quarter Team A, out of timeouts, makes a first down, stopping the clock which reads 0:03. Team A intends to spike the ball and run an additional play. The referee appropriately blows his whistle and signals, which starts the game clock. The quarterback takes the snap and raises the ball high over his head before throwing it directly to the ground. The game clock shows 0:00. RULING: Time in the quarter has expired. Although there were 3 seconds on the game clock when the referee signaled it to start, there is no guarantee of enough time to run an additional play other than spiking the ball. The offense must execute the spike in a timely manner.

Posted by Nutriaitch
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:26 am to
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you have video to back you up in case the clock strikes zero instead of 1 or 2 seconds


or to prove it was at zero seconds.

the rule book clearly States that 3 seconds is the absolute minimum amount of time needed to spike the football.

meaning you have to execute it perfectly to do it in 3 seconds. any hitch at all and it can't be done.
any hesitation or lag in reaction time "on the ready to play" signal to the snap and you can't get it spiked in time.


Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18946 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:27 am to
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How do most of yall still not understand its not because he missed the kick


The collective IQ around here gets real real low on gameday and the day after
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:29 am to
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That is not why he chewed him out. He chewed him out because once he got set he started his process over again because he didn't understand that the clock was going to be starting right on the whistle. He was not ready and that was what Kelly was mad about because he got mad at Roy and Todd for snapping the ball. But if they hadn't he wouldn't have gotten the kick off. That is situational awareness. The decision to kick the ball there was not the wrong one because if he elected to spike it there is always the possibility that the clock runs out, and because of the delay with the review there was plenty of time for everyone to be set and ready to kick the ball. I am not saying I blame Ramos but it is Kelly's job to educate his players


Can I just post this factual explanation for everyone here who is completely misinterpreting? It’s obvious that none of them are reading comments they’re just posting emotional ill-informed opinions.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:33 am to
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in NCAA football if you spike the ball with 3 seconds or less the clock will run out
What you posted doesn’t support that

quote:

Although there were 3 seconds on the game clock when the referee signaled it to start, there is no guarantee of enough time to run an additional play other than spiking the ball. The offense must execute the spike in a timely manner.
It says there is no guarantee
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:52 am to
The accepted standard since 2013 is this:

Three seconds or less remaining on the clock and time will most likely run out - unless there is an anomaly

Four seconds remaining and you can safely spike the ball

I don’t know why they left it vague, should be more clear

Perhaps it is because it is possible you could snap the ball the instant the ready for play whistle blew and spike the ball and the clock is stopped with one second left. But no HC that knows the rule is going to risk that

Rule Language should be more clear and definitive in my opinion
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22831 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:16 am to
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this board: “Kelly seems disinterested and doesn’t know what he’s doing” Also this board: “Kelly shouldn’t be yelling at players!”


He dog cussed the kicker. After putting him in a difficult situation. I don’t think that was the type of emotion the fans have been looking for
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4346 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:19 am to
He’s yelling at players to overcompensate for his failure.
Posted by IndianMoundFireworks
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:19 am to
Yeah except he had a second shot and still missed it. That’s on Ramos.
Posted by jgoodw318
Bossier City
Member since Sep 2013
1171 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:19 am to
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it can be done, but is not guaranteed.


Thank you for proving my point.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:25 am to
and if they spiked the ball and time ran out there are people that would be screaming about kelly not managing the situation correctly and costing the team three points
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51228 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:33 am to
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Rushing a field goal kick with a 3 second running clock is terrible game management. You line the QB under center and spike it. You will still have 1-2 seconds left. These are college athletes, they can handle it. Rushing a kick is much harder than spiking a ball.


Had the clock hit :02 before they snapped it to attempt a spike they don’t even get to attempt the kick.

So your point is kind of moot.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 11:34 am
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