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re: Brandon Harris on 2015 season: teams were calling their plays before the snap
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:58 am to Will2nd
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:58 am to Will2nd
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Didn't Burrow say that Auburn knew the plays they were running? I guess it's tougher to stop if you're passing all over the field vs running the ball straight up the middle or outside the left tackle.
Yes he did. Its a lot more challenging to stop a scheme that maximizes the potential of its players. Something that Miles truly had no comprehension of.
All he ever wanted to do was recruit a ton of guards and run downhill. It would have probably worked better had the defense felt the skill players were a threat to keep them from stacking the box with 8 or 9 defenders.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:59 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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Maybe with an innovative offense he would have done better.....like Burrow. Burrow completed 58% in 2018
Ensminger 2018 vs Brady 2019
Actually, a perfect example of playing to your QB's strength. LSU under Miles rarely if ever did that.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:59 am to sicboy
Brandon’s biggest mistake was coming to LSU. I truly feel sorry for the kid. Not saying I didn’t want him here but I knew damn well he was never gonna progress as a player with Leslie coaching. The amount of talent that brainless douche let go to waste during his time here beyond frustrating. Even when we won with Les I still felt like crap afterwards.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:02 am to sicboy
That Miles offense took 4 and 5 star players and made them look like walk-ons. It was a system that without elite level QB play, no one could shine in.
And the types of QBs we were recruiting just did not fit the system. It was always a square peg, round hole situation.
So frustrating looking back on it.
And the types of QBs we were recruiting just did not fit the system. It was always a square peg, round hole situation.
So frustrating looking back on it.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:04 am to jimbeam
if RJ Jackson was in the game his last year, we were running a tunnel screen. every time.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:06 am to Commandeaux
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middle screen
There were screens?
quote:
7 yard hitch
I'm sure there were some of these, but the pass plays were usually deep passes to the edges.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:09 am to sicboy
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He added opposing teams, Alabama in particular, were calling out the Tigers’ plays before they even snapped the ball.
We know Brandon.
Most LSU fans knew exactly what we were doing as well, and we didn't study film on us for a week straight.
My sons 3rd grade team had more imagination that Miles did later in his tenure. He was telegraphing his plays just by the personnel he was putting in the game.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:09 am to AustinKnight
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Hard to run imaginative plays when your QB can’t hit the broadside of a barnyard door.
You can't run imaginative plays in a game if you don't run them in practice.
Just think of the improvement LSU had after Burrow and Brady, plus the WRs, ran a thousand plays in the off season.
What a waste of talent, year after year.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:18 am to JohnnyU
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The Malveto defense was pure fecal matter. Who else did he have? Hatch? Jefferson?
Miles apologists also suggest that Jarrett Lee “broke” Les Miles. Maybe Les broke Lee. A great coach wouldn’t be mind fricked by a bad experience with a quarterback.
Those are the facts.
How many QBs did Les break?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:18 am to sicboy
Les Miles was a truly bad coach. Good dude by all accounts, but he wasted a ton of talent. Shame.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:20 am to sicboy
Old news. Of course you’re predictable when all you run is between the tackles with no horizontal stretches. And most all your throws are outside the hashes. No throwing short to intermediate across middle.
“ WE MUST ATTACK THE STRENGTH”
Quote from les miles.
“ WE MUST ATTACK THE STRENGTH”
Quote from les miles.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:25 am to Fat Bastard
Its baad!
Covid, threat of no football, and the black cloud that was Les Miles.
Covid, threat of no football, and the black cloud that was Les Miles.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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had a friend who was coaching for McNeese when we played them in 2010 (the year we were up 16-10 at half and it was almost 17-10 MSU)
I referenced that game on here the other day in that 2010 season thread, think JJ had like 33 total yards that game
2015 was the year they actually threw in the towel on the passing game against eastern Michigan lmfao
The fricking hubris of Miles to be THAT CLOSE to getting fired, vow to make changes, then roll out the exact same system in the Wisconsin game...didnt feel bad at all when the day finally came
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:32 am to S
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I referenced that game on here the other day in that 2010 season thread, think JJ had like 33 total yards that game
I think I did a thread on that, "random old box score of the day" or something. Those stats were nauseating
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:36 am to jimbeam
quote:Therein what was part of the issue. If something worked we went back to it repeatedly. Like every team.
I very distinctly remember LSU was HORRIBLE with telegraphing plays by formation. We used to run this shotgun 2x2 tight bunch, and we almost always Ran a middle screen off of it. I remember calling it out ahead of time, several times. We scored against Tennessee at their place off of it if I recall correctly. But still, we telegraphed the shite out of things
However, like every team, each play has diminishing returns over time (assuming you keep going back to it) because the opponent is prepping for it.
Here's where it fell apart, unlike other teams:
Les assumed the successful early results were due to execution and effort, which it largely was. And when the results began diminishing Les assumed it was due to less effort and poor execution, giving him the self-justification to not change anything with that particular play.
Successful plans/plays have a shelf-life. But you can "recycle" them using your opponents adjustments against them by taking the down-sloping play and turning it into a setup play or diversion for a previously less than successful play.
And don't do play fakes on 3rd and long. Just don't.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:38 am to sicboy
shite, I know very little X’s and O’s And I knew what we were running based solely on personnel groupings. Anybody getting paid to coach football should be able to see it with one eye closed.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:40 am to Lester Earl
quote:Burrow first half of 2018 vs Burrow second half of 2018.
Ensminger 2018 vs Brady 2019
Plus Burrow Summer of 2019: 10,000 catches.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:42 am to S
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The fricking hubris of Miles to be THAT CLOSE to getting fired, vow to make changes, then roll out the exact same system in the Wisconsin game
I don't remember the vow to change. I do remember the "engine is pretty stinkin' strong" comment (something similar if not a direct quote) re: the run game after the A&M game. and then Cam getting a new contract. I knew then we weren't changing much if at all.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:45 am to ATLTiger
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I don't remember the vow to change
I want to say he was quoted saying that after the Texas Bowl. It was definitely after he almost got fired after A&M.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:52 am to sicboy
He promised to change during a meeting with the powers that be
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