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re: Bottom line and all the blame lays here

Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:58 am to
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USC played deep safeties the whole night, which limits the deep ball.

They were so deep that they stopped the run just about on every play.? The seam route to the tight end was wide open all game as was the crossing route. He quit looking for those plays.
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
964 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:06 am to
The safeties didn’t stop the run.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:23 am to
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The safeties didn’t stop the run.

Go look at the box score for their safeties. Damn just because you say that doesn’t mean it is true.

Ficking Ramsey their SAFETY led their team in tackle with 9. Five of those frickers were solo.


Keep pushing the same fricking narrative. Third down execution in the second half was HORRIBLE. Look at the 2 QBs and what each did under duress. frick Nuss had all day to throw and checked the frick down. Then he can’t throw a fricking screen to save his life. Same shite as last year with him the little he played. The screen stops the fricking rush.
He has Jayden Daniels disease from 2022 and the beginning of last year. Scared to throw an INT. You saw his reaction all night. Just look for it
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 10:33 am
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15098 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:28 am to
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Brian Kelly was lazy with the OC position hire.


This will come back to haunt us again and again all season.

That said, the offense you saw in the second half is the offense that Kelly likes to run. It's what he ran at Notre Dame. It's not exciting or pretty. It's pedestrian and predictable, and it doesn't make good use of the weapons we have. It's very much a square peg/round hole situation.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8438 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:34 am to
What’s the common denominator between Jayden and Denbrock in 2022 and who’s in charge of the offense now? Funnily enough the same coach whose offenses and QBs at ND all played the same way? Nothing deep, nothing over the middle, do not under any circumstances commit a TO. Especially if the game is close.

Last year was an aberration for Kelly bc Daniel’s was so good and the defense so bad he had to finally let the shackles off a bit. But now he’s right back to where he’s comfortable
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3392 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:38 am to
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what about the coaches Where's the killer instinct 


Oh he has it. He killed any chance of running out the clock and kicking a GW field goal by not trying the FG on the first drive. fricker will never learn.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5533 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:43 am to
I said during the hiring process it didn’t seem like there was enough of an urgency to find an OC. However I think BK bought into the hypotheticals spun to him by the Sloan and Hankton management that there were promotion opportunities being offered at “undisclosed” schools. Maybe one day somebody will learn when you have two coordinators you have no coordinator.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27934 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:46 am to
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Funnily enough the same coach whose offenses and QBs at ND all played the same way? Nothing deep, nothing over the middle, do not under any circumstances commit a TO. Especially if the game is close. Last year was an aberration for Kelly bc Daniel’s was so good and the defense so bad he had to finally let the shackles off a bit. But now he’s right back to where he’s comfortable

Hey dumbass
Do you want me to find the MULTIPLE CLIPS of Kelly saying in the press that Daniels had to be forced to throw downfield?

You NEVER SAW KELLY holding back Nuss when he did play the last couple years.

That ain’t Kelly stopping him from throwing guys open or letting it fly.

Then there is the whole complimentary football and controlling the game. Why? USC was absolutely capable of having 2 minute TDs against this defense which they did. NOBODY here thinks that the DBs had a great game do they? Woodland had the most promise since Stingley IMO.

Might as well bench Burns and Ryan for all I care and let the younger guys play.
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
964 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:22 am to
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin
Member since Nov 2018
12110 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:25 am to
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USC played deep safeties the whole night,


Just blatantly incorrect lol
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2801 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:28 am to
Y'all are gonna eat your words regarding the Sloan hire. Don't over-react over 1 game. It can only lead to profoundly stupid takes.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61281 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:30 am to
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One would think after multiple failures you would stop being an idiot and try something else.


He keeps trying to force Perkins to be a MLB with ample proof that it doesn't allow him to be his best self. Seems like a theme that BK thinks he knows best and refuses to adapt.
Posted by Hampton
Member since Oct 2020
1733 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:38 am to
The deep passes were not open all night. I went back and looked. Nusted a great job, he took with the defense was giving him. We would have won the game if we would have stuck with the past and that's all there is to it.
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
2869 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:52 am to
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Y'all are gonna eat your words regarding the Sloan hire. Don't over-react over 1 game. It can only lead to profoundly stupid takes.
I believe Sloan has lots of potential but not under Kelly. Kelly will control what Sloan is allowed to do. Look at the first half. Moving the ball at will then all of a sudden the whole game plan changed.

I wasn’t in the locker room but I heard Kelly’s interview. They did exactly what he wanted to do which was run the ball but not successfully. Everyone’s development will suffer because of Kelly. Sloan, Nuss, WRs hell the entire offense. His offense was crap at ND and it continues to be here.

Last year with Daniels was easily his best offense in his career and I believe the only reason Daniels was allowed to play more freely was because of LSUs crap defense had no chance of stopping anyone.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1671 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:53 am to
They had two deep safeties all game .
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
964 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:01 am to
Look at the tape, brother. It’s there. Safeties were high almost all game.

LINK
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 8:03 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58928 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:04 am to
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Maybe nuss didn’t push it down the field and checked down all night. Just a thought. We had deep routes all night
what he didn’t do is pull it and run for 10 when the DE was screaming down the line all night. Why Sloan didn’t get in his earpiece and order him to do it I’ll never know. Why run zone read w no read at all? If Nuss isn’t going to do it out another in or stop running it
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39260 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:07 am to
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USC played deep safeties the whole night, which limits the deep ball.


Well there ya have it folks, our offense is completely neutered if our opponents play deep safeties the rest of the season.

This isn’t a knock on you, this shows how bad our coaching staff was in their inability to attack this defense. Southern Cal’s defense especially under Lincoln Riley has been a joke and our offense made them look elite
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
7003 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:09 am to
I thought Nuss got rattled in the 2nd half. USC dialed up some pressure and he started throwing of his back foot.
Nuss performed well, but we needed a little more. And I know BK caught shite, but Moss did indeed out perform GN when it mattered. Doesn't mean GN didn't play well. Moss was just more composed in the face of the rush and trusted his WR's to make plays.

We all have to remember that while GN has been here forever, he has limited starting experience. He will take a little time. He reminded me of Daniels 2 years ago. Scared to make a mistake which made him hesitate too much when the pressure mounted. I believe he will get better because of it.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5904 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:19 am to
There were issues with play calling on offense in a couple of crunch possessions. Also not throwing any deep balls was a problem. Especially in the 2nd half, that was a prime time to throw a few deep balls. Now maybe Nuss was worried about throwing the deep ones, like JD5 used to be. That's understandable.

Put Players have to execute too. Throwing a ball in the ground on an open Anderson is not the play callers fault.

We can talk about the defense play calling being terrible on the last drive too. He was calling the plays scared, using zone prevent defense and rushing 3 with a QB that showed all game that he can carve you up.
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