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re: Bookmark it: Pear is coming HOME

Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10953 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:28 pm to
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His return from exile would be epic.

You know who else returned from exile?


Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14983 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:42 pm to
I would like to believe it but I just do not think LSU will promise enough roster money to get WW to return to BR.
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:14 pm to
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Sure you would love suites, but it's not a necessity. Prior to NIL, "great facilities" was the way programs tried to distinguish themselves with recruits. Now, it's just contract negotiations.


And.
How.
Do.
You.
Fund.
Those.
Contracts?


With the revenue provided by the premium sales of clubs & suites.

The “great facilities” you’re referring to are things like locker room upgrades, training facilities, nutritional programs, and the like. (Remember the big hullabaloo about the locker room upgrades in 2019?) Which, you’re right, are much less important in the age of “pay me!” We now live in. But you can’t pay them if you don’t have the cash, which why we need the PMAC upgrade to generate said cash.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5011 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:21 pm to
Sweep, from reading your posts, we agree on a lot, and I KNOW the race issue is thrown around carelessly and has no legs 90% of the time. And I only offer it when I'm pretty damned sure it applies.

I think we can agree there are McMahon apologists/never Waders on the rant.

Let's remove race as a factor. Here's my list of reasons we have McMahon apologists /never Waders:

1) They have an agenda wanting to keep men's basketball in the toilet, whether they're baseball bros or girl's basketball devotees.

2) They're ABSOLUTELY STUPID.

3) Help me out here. What other reason can there be that they're that way towards a coach that had us headed back to the Dale days of success. I'm all ears dude.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5011 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:26 pm to
You do realize we're receiving an SEC payout north of $70 million this year, right?

And that will only grow, especially when the new TV deals are signed. We'll be getting north of $100 million annually then.

And we aren't even talking about NIL and boosters yet.


This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 2:29 pm
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8971 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:33 pm to
Rousse and Landry at work
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:48 pm to
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And.
How.
Do.
You.
Fund.
Those.
Contracts?


Mostly it's funded through NIL contracts which are independent of ticket/suite sales. The revenue sharing is capped (right now) at $20.5M (projected to increase annually by 4%). LSU is allocating ~15% to men's basketball...which comes out to roughly $4M. That amount is split up among the roster.

Even if LSU increases its ticket sales revenue, there will still be a revenue sharing cap. It's not like if LSU increases their ticket sale revenue by $5M it can take that extra $5M to increase its "payroll" by that amount. LSU will only be able to share what the cap allows. For example, even if LSU made $20M in basketball revenue this year the most that could be shared with the players is still $4M

Obviously, additional ticket sales revenue helps cover other expenses. But it doesn't increase the "salary cap".
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70523 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:52 pm to
PMAC def needs upgrades and suites should be a part of it. I’d rip out the entire top level, turn them into luxury seating, move the fans closer to the floor and drop the capacity to about 9-10k. As far as facilities, you need them. The 6month rental player isn’t going away but it’s contracting. You look at the two teams in the natty last year, they’re built almost entirely of multi year guys. UConn went back to back the two years prior with multi year players. Kansas before that had a roster full of upper classmen. The year before that Baylor had the same.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1745 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:11 pm to
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3) Help me out here. What other reason can there be that they're that way towards a coach that had us headed back to the Dale days of success. I'm all ears dude.


the answer her is that is largely old people who have an antiquated idea of how paying players works, and they resent wade for doing what was necessary to win

I should note that not all McMahon defenders are wade haters. I would argue I am the biggest wade fan on earth, but I have defended McMahon as well. but I am finished defending him.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:14 pm to
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but I have defended McMahon as well. but I am finished defending him.
There is reason and hope for us all.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70523 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:17 pm to
First things first, we have to fire MM
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8739 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:21 pm to
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First things first, we have to fire


Agreed. The things coming out yesterday morning troubled me though. Can’t believe it’s even a debate
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70523 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:21 pm to
Btw Matt Braeuer was on the Full Court Press podcast. It’s worth a look.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70523 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:22 pm to
Moscona is a cancer
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:24 pm to
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First things first, we have to fire MM
Very true.

The recent talking points of donor fatigue and we're a baseball school - is so mind-numbing. These dudes just parrot a topic du jour.

I research to know more. That's how I think you, Alt and others know the specifics of revenue sharing. And others just repeat their erroneous opinion.

--- It depresses me.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70523 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:37 pm to
It’s just more excuse making which is kind of an ugly weed that’s grown a lot over the past decade or so within our fanbase. It is sad, it’s just something we have to recognize for what it is but it’s still just excuse making not reality.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 4:38 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172210 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:41 pm to
If he does return we need to just throw caution to the wind and play an absurdly difficult non conference schedule. Even if we suck you will draw hundreds maybe thousands more fans. And maybe just maybe be better physically prepared for conference play. (We’ll have our usual nonsense tournament and low-major schedule.)
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 4:43 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:48 pm to
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If he does return we need to just throw caution to the wind and play an absurdly difficult non conference schedule. Even if we suck you will draw hundreds maybe thousands more fans. And maybe just maybe be better physically prepared for conference play. (We’ll have our usual nonsense tournament and low-major schedule.)
S, this idea makes me laugh too much.

Bring CoachMc back, for AD to schedule every actual program we can.

Problem is we would have to be on the road for consideration unless we offered a minimum Quad 2 win for them. 5 season wins.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:49 pm to
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The recent talking points of donor fatigue and we're a baseball school - is so mind-numbing


I think there probably is some degree of "donor-fatigue." No one really likes paying someone multiple millions to, in effect, go away. Then paying multiple millions more to fix the problem. And donor fatigue probably would be high...IF LSU and LSU fans were demanding donors only consider poaching one of the top 5 or so coaches in America and offering him a contract that would make him one of the highest paid coaches in the county, along with funding the highest NIL budget in the country.

But even the most ardent LSU basketball fans aren't asking for that. Or at least they shouldn't be. I, like any rational LSU fan, would love to see Wade return. But I wouldn't agree that should come at any cost. In reality, most basketball fans just want to end this depressing waste of time in LSU basketball history to give hope for brighter days ahead. If that means Wade on a reasonable contract, great! But SEC teams can win, immediately, with hiring the right mid-major coach too if that has to be the second option.

But what doesn't make sense is to continue on with a HC that has done nothing but lose at a league high rate for his entire tenure just because you don't want to pay a (relatively) small buyout. Particularly if that refusal to pay the buyout is in conjunction with increasing NIL for which LSU won't get any return on under the current HC.

On that note, maybe basketball is the equivalent of one of these Persian juicy crab/seafood restaurants. From the outside it seems like a pretty bad business investment...until you realize it is likely just a money laundering front. Maybe that is what the last 4 years have been. LSU and the donors don't really care about the results. They are just funneling "dirty" money through it. It's as plausible an explanation as any to explain why there would be consideration to carrying this mess over to year 5.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23156 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:53 pm to
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frick you, talked about this for weeks with sauce… this isn’t my first rodeo around here. Thanks for your baseball preview


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