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Posted on 2/26/26 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 2/26/26 at 9:38 pm to
It has nothing to do with any of that. It’s about one thing, they thought anyone could do what he was doing and they anointed McMahon before they’d ever seen a game of his. Everything since is just their ego trying to justify those idiotic predictions and statements.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:06 am to
Madking, I'm not so sure about that. I think there is a "baseball bro" element wanting to keep men's basketball down. And there is no better way to keep it down than retaining this mother jumper.

Don't discount race being a factor in it either. These good ole boys relate a lot better to Tommy Tanks than they do Mike Nwoko.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 4:07 am
Posted by That LSU Guy
The boys are back in town.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 5:54 am to
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Prepear tOrchard
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
3491 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 6:50 am to
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baseball bro" element


There does seem to be some of these on here that like to poo poo basketball , men’s and women’s . Some sort of inferiority complex I guess .

I’ll take basketball over baseball 10 out of 10 times but I don’t feel the need to poo poo on baseball .
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18681 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 7:18 am to
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'm not so sure about that. I think there is a "baseball bro" element wanting to keep men's basketball down.


Oh there is no doubt a faction. I by no means think it's a majority, but there does not need to be a majority to make it seem like a lot - just a few baws united in a passion for LSU baseball and dispassion for other sports not baseball - their reasons - I have my suspicions.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12954 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 7:41 am to
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It has nothing to do with any of that. It’s about one thing, they thought anyone could do what he was doing and they anointed McMahon before they’d ever seen a game of his.


Now you're just making shite up.

Whether McMahon is retained or cut loose, no one on this board knows jack squat. It will come down to the wishes and will of the donors. Thankfully the buyout is not one huge hit but you have all the assistants to buyout as well. Now, it's not just the cost of the new staff but significant NIL dollars as well.
That' just part A. You still have to find a new coach and give him a sweet deal, budget for an elite staff in addition to the forementioned NIL funds. The PMAC is being replaced or renovated anytime soon. How attractive is the LSU job?
I'm sure LSU will pursue Wade but what can they offer than NC State can't.
I don't care how much Wade is grateful to Rousse or how close they are, Rousse can't print money. He can't shite a new arena or facilities. I think Wade is a smart guy so I would think he knows that you can't look back.
The SEC is not the same conference it was during his tenure. It's much stronger. Conversely, the ACC is not the greatest hoops conference in NCAA any longer.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35580 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:25 am to
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but you have all the assistants to buyout as well.


Two of the assistant coaches are on expiring contracts. Another's contract is up after next season. The prorated buyout payment for next season to buyout the assistants would be ~$1.5M. This ain't football with 29 assistant coaches and $2M coordinators.

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budget for an elite staff in addition to the forementioned NIL funds


Again. This isn't football. An "elite" staff isn't expensive or necessary. For example, EVERY assistant coach on Wade's NC State staff is making LESS than every assistant coach on McMahon's LSU staff. How is that "elite" staff working out for LSU? LSU could literally give Wade's assistants the same amount LSU is paying McMahon's assistants and it would be a significant raise for the new assistant coaches.

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The PMAC is being replaced or renovated anytime soon.


Who cares? Fans seem to have no issue filling it up for WBB games. And Mulkey somehow wins in the "old" building. Purdue's area is older than the PMAC. It doesn't seem to be a hindrance..

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How attractive is the LSU job?


MM has the lowest annual salary of any HC in the SEC (because there has been zero reason to increase it). Yet, he and his staff are being paid MORE than many other power conference HCs and staffs. The point is it doesn't take much more to make the LSU job attractive.

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He can't shite a new arena or facilities


That was the weapon in yesteryears "arms race". Facilities don't matter to players anymore.

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I think Wade is a smart guy so I would think he knows that you can't look back.


What would there be to "look back" on? The people who fired him are gone. In not so small part because they were opposed to Wade. The fans and donor network who thought favorably of him when he was at LSU are still here.

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The SEC is not the same conference it was during his tenure. It's much stronger.


Bruce Pearl has retired.
Rick Barnes isn't far away
Kentucky is fading

Basically, the only significant positive change is Florida has returned to glory. But with that strength of the SEC also comes money...the gap in which is becoming much wider with the ACC. Schools (FSU and Clemson) are desperate to LEAVE the ACC. It's the next conference that will fall in the same manner as the Pac 12. That won't be next season, or the next, but within the next 10 years the ACC won't exist as you know it.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5013 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:27 am to
You know who else can't print money??

NC MOTHERFLUCKING state.

As I've posted several times, anyone keeping up with the conference realignment situation can pretty well see where the Wolfpack are headed, and it AIN'T PRETTY.

The ACC as we know it (in case you think I'm wrong, think PAC 12) will dissolve over the next 5-10 years when their money making schools are poached by the SEC and big 10.

As it stands, NC state is already sucking hind tit in the modest payout they get from the ACC now.

In the last year or so, the ACC has changed how they distribute TV money. Roughly half of their payout is based on the football audience each school has watching on TV. The Wolfpack are in the bottom half of that league, and it won't change.

Also, as part of the FSU and Clemson lawsuit settlement, the exit fee reduces SUBSTANTIALLY each year that passes, so that won't stop the top schools from leaving in the near future.

LSU is another story, homie. We will ALWAYS run with the big dogs, in the best conference in America, with $100 million plus in annual SEC payouts.

Now, do you want to rethink who you believe has the better situation for Wade? I promise you, it ain't NC st over LSU.





Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11142 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:57 am to
Cal is 67, would add Arkansas to the list.

Florida, Alabama and maybe Vandy if they ward off poachers seem to be the teams with most long term stability. Mike White at UGA is pretty young as well but his teams seem to be very inconsistent

LSU could be added to that list by getting Wade back
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70530 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:22 am to
Your post has nothing to do with what I said
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70530 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:31 am to
I’m not denying those types exist, you are correct in saying it but the bulk of the mcmen is who I’m talking about. And it’s not me guessing, I’ve witnessed it since the final 2 years of WW. Don’t want to list names but you know who the hardline mcmen are and all of them fall into that category save 1.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 9:32 am
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3460 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:44 am to
Will Wade is so much flippin fun. His return from exile would be epic.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
1398 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:35 am to
Let's agree LSU will have a new mens bb coach next season.

Before his departure can we get a Sticky with all the creative McNames for LSU's future former MBBC?
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12830 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:47 am to
I havent followed bball lately. Are there any other SEC jobs coming open? Would WW be a candidate for those?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35580 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:55 am to
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I havent followed bball lately. Are there any other SEC jobs coming open?


The Oklahoma job will likely be open

quote:

Would WW be a candidate for those?


Doubtful
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:59 am to
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hat was the weapon in yesteryears "arms race". Facilities don't matter to players anymore.


It matters as far as generating the revenue needed to compete.

There is no way to add suites and club seats (the big revenue generators) to the PMAC. You need a new building.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5013 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:53 am to
Will Wade shouldn't be far down the list of any school making a hire.

At LSU, he's got his people in place NOW, and the idiots are all gone.

That has to be a positive for LSU in rehiring Wade.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35580 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:29 pm to
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It matters as far as generating the revenue needed to compete.

There is no way to add suites and club seats (the big revenue generators) to the PMAC. You need a new building.


Sure you would love suites, but it's not a necessity. Prior to NIL, "great facilities" was the way programs tried to distinguish themselves with recruits. Now, it's just contract negotiations. Revenue share (currently) is a capped amount. The other amount for NIL will still come from private donors. Plus, several schools have renovated buildings older than the PMAC to include "premium" seating. See Illinois for example. Iowa St is playing in a old arena with no suites. They are doing just fine.

Regardless, LSU is planning to build a new area
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3524 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Don't discount race being a factor in it either


Ok now that’s absolutely the dumbest thing I’ve read on here today
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