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Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:35 pm to Madking
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It’s bound to happen when you just invent your own standards and only apply them for a specific point based on nothing but bias.
I don’t even really have a dog in this fight, but I feel like this is one of those statements that’s very hypocritical because most people do this. Yes, even you madking.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:41 am to CalRipkenJr
And he’ll coach 23 without one. Dude isn’t it.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:36 am to FulshearTexasTiger
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Admins!!!! Why do yall allow this continual type of bullshite on Tigerdroppings??? If LSU wins out, this same asstard will be singing CBK praise, this is unacceptable. Do better Chicken!!!
He's expressing an opinion regarding LSU football. This isn't just an echo chamber where a bunch of homers discuss how everything is sunshine and roses regarding LSU football, whether some of you want it to be or not.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:48 am to TheRouxGuru
No I don’t and no most people don’t
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:49 am to Salviati
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This might be the dumbest stat ever.
How many D1 coaches stay a head coach for over 21 years?
Right. It’s meaningless without more data. So let’s get more data.
There are only 3 active FBS head coaches who have gone 21+ years without a national title, out of 134 FBS programs. So 2.24% of current FBS coaches fall into the category OP referenced.
OP says FBS head coaches with 21+ years experience and no titles have won 1 out of the last 40 national championships. That’s 2.50% of championships.
So 2.24% of coaches have won 2.5% of championships? That would mean a head coach with 21+ years and no titles is actually 12% more likely to win a championship in a given year than a coach from the rest of the field.
(In reality it’s probably not statistically significant either way.)
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:50 am to SidewalkTiger
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Only 3 current coaches have won a championship.
This is a weird "end all, be all".
lol yeah you say that the year after Saban retires and Harbough goes to the NFL and Jimbo Fisher loses his job. Just last year, it was 6 coaches.
This team MIGHT lose another game this year. Furthermore, you guys keep adding these absolutely meaningless bowl games to Brian Kelly's record. This isn't the BCS era and these bowl games dont even have all the starters in them anymore.
Brian Kelly (2022-Present)
2022: 9-3
2023: 9-3
2024: 6-3 (so far)
Total: 24-9
Ed Orgeron (2016-2021)
2016: 6-2 (interim head coach)
2017: 9-3
2018: 9-3
2019: 12-0
2020: 5-5
2021: 6-6
Total: 47-19
Les Miles (2005-2016)
2005: 10-2
2006: 10-2
2007: 11-2
2008: 7-5
2009: 9-3
2010: 10-2
2011: 13-0
2012: 10-2
2013: 9-3
2014: 8-4
2015: 8-3
2016: 2-2 (fired mid-season)
Total: 107-34
LSU hasn't been a "true" 10 win school since Miles. You guys keep going bakc to this "10 win" ... when its really not. It's been a perrenial 9-3 school since Miles.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:59 am to CalRipkenJr
I already posted this . AGREED 100%
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:00 am to Ebridg3
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LSU hasn't been a "true" 10 win school since Miles. You guys keep going bakc to this "10 win" ... when its really not. It's been a perrenial 9-3 school since Miles.
Well well also had Ed freaking Orgeron and Les Miles during those years. The point is that LSU SHOULD be a 10-win team every season based on several factors, including us being the only major program in a talented recruiting state.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:12 am to CalRipkenJr
Stats can be twisted to be deceiving. So we have 3 nattys in football in your time period of 40 years. How many schools have won 4 championships in the 40 years? The answer is one. Using your logic, does that mean we have little chance of winning another regardless of coach?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:34 am to Madking
That’s just your bias showing.
You mean to tell me that you have no personal biases? Everything you say comes from a completely neutral and informed thought?
I doubt it. Get over yourself
You mean to tell me that you have no personal biases? Everything you say comes from a completely neutral and informed thought?
I doubt it. Get over yourself
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:37 am to TheRouxGuru
That isn’t what I implied or said at all. You’re making shite up, my argument is exactly because we all have biases so we need universal standards instead of what people like you do which is twist a term like “context” into a double standard, infinite excuse that only applies to your bias.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:39 am to CalRipkenJr
I'm truly glad this site was not this popular during the saban era. The great Saban took over a roster with more talent than Kelly did and lost 5 games in year 3. Brian Kelly has his flaws as does every coach but he has done a decent job considering the program he took over. This WAS NOT the LSU program that Miles or O inherited.
2020=5-5
2021= 6-7
2022=10-4 SEC west title 15th final ranking
2023= 10-3 Heisman Winner 12th final ranking
2024 = incomplete
Anyone claiming Kelly should be fired with those results after the program he took over needs to ask themselves.," what decent coach is coming here knowing they won't get 3 full seasons to right a dumpster fire before the fans want him fired"?
This type of fan has helped create what current Nebraska is.
Kelly is 2.5 years into a massive rebuild at the program we all love. I could understand these types of threads if we were finishing the season unranked or having .500 or worse seasons every year he has been here,but that's not the case. We are financially bound to Kelly for at least the next 3 years. He has a massive class that is on the horizon. Constantly shitting on a coach that IS NOT going anywhere can only do harm to the program we love. And again.... in no way has his first 2 years been close to bad or even average compared to what he inherited....
GEAUX TIGAHS.....
2020=5-5
2021= 6-7
2022=10-4 SEC west title 15th final ranking
2023= 10-3 Heisman Winner 12th final ranking
2024 = incomplete
Anyone claiming Kelly should be fired with those results after the program he took over needs to ask themselves.," what decent coach is coming here knowing they won't get 3 full seasons to right a dumpster fire before the fans want him fired"?
This type of fan has helped create what current Nebraska is.
Kelly is 2.5 years into a massive rebuild at the program we all love. I could understand these types of threads if we were finishing the season unranked or having .500 or worse seasons every year he has been here,but that's not the case. We are financially bound to Kelly for at least the next 3 years. He has a massive class that is on the horizon. Constantly shitting on a coach that IS NOT going anywhere can only do harm to the program we love. And again.... in no way has his first 2 years been close to bad or even average compared to what he inherited....
GEAUX TIGAHS.....
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 8:41 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:40 am to JiminyCricket
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If you can win a title in South Bend, why has no one done it since 1988?
Exactly. Also, Penn St hasn’t won one since 1986.
If you can win a title in South Bend, why has no one done it since 1988?
Exactly. Also, Penn St hasn’t won one since 1986.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:42 am to runridley
Simple Math
#3 Recruiting Class + #30 Coaching Staff = Music City Bowl
#3 Recruiting Class + #30 Coaching Staff = Music City Bowl
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:28 am to JiminyCricket
quote:Are we could have gotten a lesser known up and comer. That if they didn’t perform wouldn’t have cost much to get rid of. Instead we stuck with Kelly and $60-70 mil buyout. We did good, everyone thinks highly of us.
God this is so stupid. Okay, go ahead and don’t offer competitive contracts to candidates and enjoy being labeled as the school that lowballs and never lands anyone of significance.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:30 am to HangmanPage1
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Are we could have gotten a lesser known up and comer. That if they didn’t perform wouldn’t have cost much to get rid of. Instead we stuck with Kelly and $60-70 mil buyout. We did good, everyone thinks highly of us.
I remember when people clamored for Napier too.
Keep in mind though, a big criticism of Kelly is he hasn't won a championship, and yet we should've hired an unknown?
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:33 am to Rickdaddy4188
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2022=10-4 SEC west title 15th final ranking
2023= 10-3 Heisman Winner 12th final ranking
9 regular season wins. Bowl games are a shadow of what they used to be if you don't make the playoffs.
He's a 9 win coach, not a 10 win coach. There's a significant difference between a 9 and 10 win regular season. This is year 3 and LSU is probably going to finish worse than the previous two years.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:34 am to HangmanPage1
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Are we could have gotten a lesser known up and comer. That if they didn’t perform wouldn’t have cost much to get rid of. Instead we stuck with Kelly and $60-70 mil buyout. We did good, everyone thinks highly of us.
This is the rant in a nutshell. This place would have rioted had we gone cheap and hired someone unknown. The fanbase would be ready to burn down Woodward’s office if and when that hire turned bad and had to be canned. Why don’t you let the grown ups make the decisions and you sit back and enjoy.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:35 am to Hold That Tiger 10
What does winningest active coach mean? Who cares? It’s championship or bust. Are you a clueless retard? Lololololololol
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