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BETTER College football playoff idea
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:27 pm
4 team playoff.
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 4:27 pm
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Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:31 pm to BayouBengals03
which 4 teams? What if there are 2 undefeated teams and all other major teams have 2 losses?
I just think that it is too subjective. There are some years where this may work, but there are others where it would not.
I think there is a huge gray area with a 4 team playoff.
I just think that it is too subjective. There are some years where this may work, but there are others where it would not.
I think there is a huge gray area with a 4 team playoff.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:33 pm to BayouBengals03
11 conference champs, 1 at-large ... there you go.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:34 pm to Gmorgan4982
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11 conference champs, 1 at-large ... there you go.
conference champion tie-ins solve NOTHING
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:And the BCS does? I would start a list of all the undefeated teams that have been given no shot, but I don't have that kind of time.
conference champion tie-ins solve NOTHING
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:35 pm to easy money
Top 4 in the BCS standings. This way all regular season games are still extremely important. Play the Orange, Fiesta, Rose, and Sugar on New Year's, then the next week have one of the four host two semifinal games, and then the next week have one of the four host the championship. They could have a similar rotation to what they have now.
So now, 4 teams would be unable to be chosen for BCS bowls instead of 2. At the end of the day, the Rose Bowl can still pick a Pac-10 team and Big Ten team because it is unlikely either conference will put two teams in the top 4.
The only major thing is that the semifinals and finals would have to be played in the middle of the week like the championship is now in order to stay out of competition with the NFL playoffs.
So now, 4 teams would be unable to be chosen for BCS bowls instead of 2. At the end of the day, the Rose Bowl can still pick a Pac-10 team and Big Ten team because it is unlikely either conference will put two teams in the top 4.
The only major thing is that the semifinals and finals would have to be played in the middle of the week like the championship is now in order to stay out of competition with the NFL playoffs.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
every conference needs to make equal standards as far as their format. 8 conference games and a conference championship.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:38 pm to Gmorgan4982
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And the BCS does?
a system that works at worst 80% of the time and in my opinion 100% of the time works
no other system is better
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Well, I agree that no system tried before this one is any better; that doesn't exactly make this one great.
no other system is better
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a system that works at worst 80% of the time and in my opinion 100% of the time works
no other system is better
Exactly, so if they absolutely feel the need to have a playoff, it should not be more than 4 teams.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
i agree that the BCS works. However, we have been talking about for some time. It seems bound to happen.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:43 pm to easy money
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which 4 teams? What if there are 2 undefeated teams and all other major teams have 2 losses?
I just think that it is too subjective. There are some years where this may work, but there are others where it would not.
I think there is a huge gray area with a 4 team playoff.
Take the top 4 teams in the BCS. The reason for a 4 team playoff is to increase the likelihood that you have the top 2 teams, not to match up the "true" top 4 teams. If a team can't convince the voters or earn enough of a computer ranking to be in the top 4, then it is very unlikely it is in the top 2 and I don't care if they are excluded. Determining the "true" top 4 is actually a more difficult problem than determining the top 2 and determining the top 12 is even more difficult. The fallicy is thinking that subjectivity can be eliminated in college football. There is just too much disparity between teams and schedules. Subjectivity is an inherent characteristic that cannot be assumed away.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:44 pm to easy money
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every conference needs to make equal standards as far as their format. 8 conference games and a conference championship.
And who has the authority to do that?
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:45 pm to Indiana Tiger
we're not talking about the top 12. the 12 will be comprised of all conference champs and an at large.
the top 2 and 4 are subjective.
the top 2 and 4 are subjective.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:46 pm to Gmorgan4982
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And the BCS does? I would start a list of all the undefeated teams that have been given no shot, but I don't have that kind of time.
It's a short list.
Hawaii, Auburn, Boise, and Utah.
BCS results
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:46 pm to easy money
quote:Yes, but then people's precious opinions wouldn't matter nearly as much anymore ... can't have that!
the top 2 and 4 are subjective.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:46 pm to mikedatyger
I think you need to add an extra Utah in there ... and Tulane as well.
This post was edited on 7/15/09 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:47 pm to easy money
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the top 2 and 4 are subjective
The top two is always subjective in a way. But a #3 team left out of a two team playoff has more beef than a #5 team left out of a four team playoff.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:48 pm to Gmorgan4982
True, forgot Tulane. The 2nd Utah was the 04 season with Auburn.
Still a short list for a "flawed" system.
Still a short list for a "flawed" system.
Posted on 7/15/09 at 4:49 pm to BayouBengals03
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But a #3 team left out of a two team playoff has more beef than a #5 team left out of a four team playoff.
LOL. And how is that exactly?
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