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Behind the scenes: Alleva's shocking micromanagement of LSU football
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:48 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:48 am
LISTEN: Behind the scenes look at Joe Alleva's shocking micromanagement of LSU football
Our athletic director is now watching film with the head coach on Sundays, and directing the management and leadership of offense and defense through closed-door meetings with coaches.
How is this guy still employed at LSU? This is getting beyond ridiculous.
Thanks to RB10 for cliffnotes of podcast:
Our athletic director is now watching film with the head coach on Sundays, and directing the management and leadership of offense and defense through closed-door meetings with coaches.
How is this guy still employed at LSU? This is getting beyond ridiculous.
Thanks to RB10 for cliffnotes of podcast:
quote:
The cliff notes of the segment on the meeting (OP is welcome to include this if he wishes):
- Joe Alleva has taken to watching film with Orgeron on Sunday's.
- It has not been well received by the other coaches.
- Alleve one the one who suggested that they bring the coordinators in.
- Most athletic directors wouldn't do that.
- Barry Alvarez, who was a great coach and not AD, would never meet with coach and coordinators. If asked by HC, he would look at film independently and have a private conversation to discuss.
- This doesn't happen because it shows a lack of respect for HC.
- It's Alleva's right to point out things that aren't going well, but for the AD to be the person that everything funnels through is not a good look.
- The coordinators were affirmed in their belief that it's their call to do what they want to.
- Saying the meeting worked because LSU beat Florida is shortsighted.
- What happens when other problems take place? Do the coordinators go to the HC or the AD? Reaffirmed that it's a bad look.
- Noted that this all should have been kept in house. Leaking it to the media makes the HC look weak in front of the team. Not the right way to do it.
- Why did meeting take place? Orgeron felt that with youth on offensive line, pre-snap scheme & motions were too confusing. Canada believed just the opposite.
- Short version of what makes Canada's offense work: Pre-snap motions mask Oline deficiencies and talent discrepancy. Offense's success is predicated on making defenses defend the jet sweep preventing them from teeing off on QB in the pocket or overloading the front against the inside run.
- Orgeron's theory is "good ol' boy" toughness. Does not emphasize getting "more out of less" from the line.
- Not running Canada's offense cost LSU the Troy game IN LANDRY'S OPINION. He does not believe Orgeron will meddle in offense again.
- Concern going forward is will Orgeron meddle the next time something is not working well.
- Why did meeting happen? From 3 sources who spoke to either one, or both coordinators: Coordinators were empowered to run their units as they see fit. Communication with Orgeron is necessary, but Alleva told Orgeron to let them coach the way they want to.
- Pressure is on coordinators because of the structure. They are coaching for future jobs as well as the current season.
- "Everyone's reputation is at stake here."
- It's a problem when the coordinators don't respect the HC's accumen due to lack of knowledge on running an offense and/or defense.
- Most situations include coordinators who "look up" to the HC, and are being empowered by HC to take charge, but coordinators have the option to "tap in to" the HC's knowledge to help them grow as coach. This is a "void" at LSU, and "is a long-term problem".
- Alleva told coordinators "they are in charge in front of Orgeron". Re-emphasized the lack of respect to the HC in doing so. Gives coordinators too much power.
- What is Alleva so involved? Paraphrasing: "That's what he's always wanted and he did not get that with Les Miles. That's why he hired Orgeron. He wanted to have the ability to put his two cents in. It's his toy. Les Miles, nor any other coach, would put up with that."
- Orgeron listens to too many people regarding how the program should be run. Specifically mentioned Pete Jenkins and coordinators.
- Difficult when coordinators are telling the HC what to do rather than it being the HC telling coordinators.
- It is Canada's offense and Aranda's show going forward. "Always subject to change".
- Around the country, responses from AD's, head coaches & assistant coaches is that this meeting was "strong indicator" in lack of faith in Orgeron. Needs to be "looked at and followed closely".
- Win against Florida is not an indicator that long-term success is viable.
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:50 am to JPLSU1981
Is Landry for real or just a self promoting blowhard?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:51 am to JPLSU1981
If this is true this is similar to an NFL owner having input with his GMs and Coaches. We all know how those work.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:52 am to lsuhunt555
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If this is true
It was apparently confirmed to be true by BOTH coordinators.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:53 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
Our athletic director is now watching film with the head coach on Sundays
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:53 am to JPLSU1981
I am now convinced that any reservations Jimbo had in 2015, and perhaps the reason he allegedly shot LSU down last year, were due to the fact that he didn't want to coach under Alleva and the current administration. The culture and people are different from what he remembers. This isn't the same LSU he knew and loved.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:55 am to JPLSU1981
quote:
It was apparently confirmed to be true by BOTH coordinators.
link?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:55 am to LSUminati
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The culture and people are different from what he remembers. This isn't the same LSU he knew and loved.
Yea let me tell you
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:55 am to OTIS2
About as real deal as you can get as far as coaching connections
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:58 am to JPLSU1981
Maybe someone can lock the door and keep the two of them in there until after the season is over
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 7:59 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:59 am to Circus Child
Link is in the OP
Supposedly confirmed to 3 different people by the coordinators.
Supposedly confirmed to 3 different people by the coordinators.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:00 am to JPLSU1981
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Our athletic director is now watching film with the head coach on Sundays
It's possible that he's doing it only to make sure that the HC is actually watching film.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:04 am to JPLSU1981
We have a 76 year-old career D-Line coach with no head coaching experience helping our multi-million dollar 56 year-old career D-line coach with only 3 years head coaching experience decide how to run the program.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
I posted this last night and it was anchored with quickness.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:07 am to JPLSU1981
Did you even listen to the podcast?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:07 am to 1999
I'm actually more shocked by this than the actual loss to Troy.
If this goes mainstream public, Joe Alleva will be fired by Saturday IMO.
If this goes mainstream public, Joe Alleva will be fired by Saturday IMO.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:10 am to OTIS2
You're going to attack the ONE guy in media telling y'all the truth?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:10 am to OTIS2
Alleva and Coach 0 is exactly what y'all deserve.
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