re: Beckham fumble????

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From the link JaxTigah provided:


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c. Live ball ruled dead in possession of a runner when the clear recovery of a loose
ball occurs in the immediate continuing action following the loose ball.
1. If the ball is ruled dead and the replay official does not have indisputable video evidence as to which team recovers, the dead-ball ruling stands.
2. If the replay official rules that the ball was not dead, it belongs to the recovering team at the spot of the recovery and any advance is nullified.




Not sure if these are quotes from an official rule book are not but they're leave a lot of ambiguity on the field. I mean, how long is the "immediate continuing action" allowed? Had the UF player's first attempt to recover it been bobbled, is he allowed a second attempt? Could an LSU player approaching the play get in on the action?

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Exactly.
The rule used to be that once the ref blew the whistle the play was dead and the ball would have gone back to the last possessing team.
I guess the rule was changed when they went to replay review.

Terrible rule and potentially invites injury.

the one I found really funny was the review of the "to many men on the field". How can a flag be thrown, then picked up and said there was no flag, then a coach review it to recount? It got me at first as the player got off the field but he was # 13. I just didn't realise you can challenge a non call

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That was fricked up. But the OBJ fumble was almost exactly like Romo vs. Tampa when they blew the whistle for a pass but the ball went right to Tampa dude who ran it in. Tampa got the ball, but no TD.

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So the ref's whistle does not necessarily end the play. What moron thought that was a good rule?

Yeah, the fumble was obvious on replay but my group was having the same discussion before the call was made about who keeps the ball since the whistle was blown and therefore (we thought) the play was dead prior to UF recovering. Had the whistle not blown, any number of things could have happened on that play, so this officiating mistake could have affected the game (though not as much as the actual fumble--these turnovers are killers!)

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The corporate banking fascist elite ruled it Florida's ball...

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Those bastards!

Not even going to read the second page of this thread. The answer was given near the bottom of the first page. Thanks for that answer as I was wondering the same thing... remembered seeing the exact same thing happen in another game the week before.

To all you idiots that kept saying on the first page "it was clearly a fumble", why do you even post stupid shite like that. Nobody is questioning if he fumbled the ball or not, the question only had to do with the whistle and its bearing on who the REFS award the ball to!

Having worked during the game, I didn't actually see this play. Is there a valid youtube link to it?

For the life of me, I thought a whistle blew the play dead, and the last team in possession prior to the whistle would keep possession. Even an early or inadvertent whistle. Because the whistle is supposed to signal the end of the play, and you're supposed to ease up.

How about protect the ball so the there isn't a need to review anything?

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For the life of me, I thought a whistle blew the play dead, and the last team in possession prior to the whistle would keep possession

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It was that way when replay first started. Everyone remembers the old "Inadvertant Whistles". It changed a couple of years ago. You can make a recovery of a fumble even after the whistle blows but it can not be advanced. If it had not been a "clear" recovery of the fumble by UF, LSU would have kept the ball at the spot of the fumble.

ETA: anyone who saw the Texas Oklahoma State game, the ball was fumbled by Texas before a touchdown was ruled but the ball was still awarded to Texas because there was supposedly not a "clear recovery" by Ok State. That was a real hosing because that was 7 points.