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re: Bad news for LSU basketball fans

Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Zizzlefontain2
Member since Jan 2017
420 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:30 pm to
I hope they fire mcloser. Never liked the hire and to get rid of a woody hire gets beyond that failure.

This (not firing Matt) is coming from those at the top. They say LSU has spent money for football and they aren’t going fire the basketball coach and buy a roster to compete. If you’re not buying a roster, might as well keep the coach.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
19462 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 6:35 pm to
All firings now a days or BOOSTER driven. Baskets ain’t got none. I could see him surviving. Wades answer will make a diff here.
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 6:37 pm
Posted by hondo
Member since Oct 2006
1366 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 8:39 pm to
I’m cautiously optimistic that he will be fired after the season. If he is retained I believe a large number of season ticket holders will not renew. Then the PMAC will really look like a morgue next year.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
27108 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 9:00 pm to
If you had to make the choice... who do you fire.

Coach A - been here 13yrs; zero nattys.

Coach B - been here 4yrs; zero nattys.

One HC makes about 2.2-2.3M more than the other.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32106 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:51 pm to
I hope McMahon comes back next year, recruits the nation's top talents, wins double digit SEC games, and mutes the conclavity of vipers who have populated this site.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32744 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:57 pm to
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You naive fricks never learn, do you? What now you think our wealthy boosters are tapped out because of firing Kelly and hiring Kiff!? Dumbasses


its natural for average people like us to fathom how much money some of these people that back lsu have. they dont understand how large the difference between a millionaire and billionaire is.
we have at least one billionaire that I know of and McMahons buy out is chump change for him. it would be like us buying a family pack of Angus ribeyes for a party or something
Posted by TigerScribe
Member since Dec 2005
1208 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:07 am to
quote:

Maybe we need separate boards for each sport so we don't have to skip through this basketball shite


Or, you could simply choose not to post in a basketball thread.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18737 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:02 am to
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All firings now a days or BOOSTER driven. Baskets ain’t got none.


Not true. And there are some that were but not anymore but that could be motivated to be again. Mascona can say whatever he wants about donor fatigue but things can turn on a dime - we saw that with Kelly.

Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2969 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:15 am to
Can we just hire a high school coach for $100k or so?
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3785 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:25 am to
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Can we sacrifice WBB instead


Ridiculous comment. We have a shot at a championship most years that Mulkey is here. Geaux away.
This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 8:54 am
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
6906 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:30 am to
Precisely
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
3508 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:31 am to
Very soon the job will be open and it will be up to Wade weather he wants it or not
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68505 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:33 am to
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I hope McMahon comes back next year, recruits the nation's top talents, wins double digit SEC games, and mutes the conclavity of vipers who have populated this site.


McMahon was in a no-win situation when he took the job and it's only gotten worse over the years he's been here. Factually, the pro-Wade media, fans, boosters, and even politicians have drowned out any chance he had at being successful.

I don't think he's even that bad of a coach, but the support wasn't there from day one because people, including those with say-so, are still pining for the ghost of the previous coach.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80394 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:35 am to
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Factually, the pro-Wade media, fans, boosters, and even politicians have drowned out any chance he had at being successful.

Not having any hint of success really hurt him.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72333 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:40 am to
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I hope they fire mcloser. Never liked the hire and to get rid of a woody hire gets beyond that failure.

This (not firing Matt) is coming from those at the top. They say LSU has spent money for football and they aren’t going fire the basketball coach and buy a roster to compete. If you’re not buying a roster, might as well keep the coach.


Please stop pretending you are connected to anyone here other than listening to Mascona go on about stuff like this.

McMahon is being fired, there is no doubt. They have been backchanneling Wade for months now.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35676 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:42 am to
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This (not firing Matt) is coming from those at the top. They say LSU has spent money for football and they aren’t going fire the basketball coach and buy a roster to compete. If you’re not buying a roster, might as well keep the coach.


Then "the top" is a collection of morons.

MM is going to be paid by LSU for next season whether he coaches it or not. 2 assistants + a GM are going to be paid for next season (unless they leave on their own accord). LSU will have to resign or hire 2 new assistant coaches. There will be expenses for next season. It's not like LSU is shutting down the program. But "the top" thinks simply moving on with the status quo while the customer base dwindles closer to nothing is the way to go? Why? Because there was a lot of money spent on football?

Guess what? The money spent on football isn't going to be less in future years. That number is only going to increase. The price for a roster will continue to inflate. Coaches salaries will continue to inflate. And, I promise, if Kiffin performs as well as he's being expected to, HIS cost will inflate.

MM is the losingest coach in LSU basketball history. He's the least successful coach, any sport, in at least 40-50 years. Yes, that INCLUDES Hallman. He had a .322 SEC winning % in 4 years. MM is on pace to have a .220 SEC winning % in 4 years. Or put it in this context. MM only has 6 more SEC wins than Hallman (10)...despite coaching 36 more SEC games than Hallman!

Hiring a new basketball coach isn't going to get cheaper if LSU waits until after next season to make a change. The market is going to continue to inflate. So the "savings" of not having to pay MM to not coach next season will be mitigated to some degree by the fact that the HC you hire after next season will be more expensive than had you hired a new HC this season.

If there is "donor fatigue" in that the donor's don't want to buyout MM and staff then commit the funds necessary to try to hire a "big name" HC (yes, including Wade), then I could see that. But this isn't football. LSU could make a mid-major hire and totally change the trajectory of the program...like Alabama, or Florida, or Vanderbilt, or even Missouri, etc. Is there a risk with hiring a mid-major HC? Sure. But at this point things can't get any worse. LSU is continuing to lose at a historic clip and apathy towards the program is at a decades long high (or maybe low?)
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18737 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:43 am to
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Factually, the pro-Wade media, fans, boosters, and even politicians have drowned out any chance he had at being successful.


So CMM has no personal responsibility for his significant lack of success here? It's due to efforts by others that he was not able to have any success? Interesting theory.

quote:


I don't think he's even that bad of a coach,
I think there are many facets to being a head coach at this level - we don't need to go into all of them I think you and most know what they are. I don't think CMM is bad at all of them and he may be pretty good at some of them but he is no question not good at promoting his program or helping to fund raise for his program or garnering the support you say was never there - and for the job he chose to accept 4 years ago, that's a MUST to be successful here.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68505 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:50 am to
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So CMM has no personal responsibility for his significant lack of success here? It's due to efforts by others that he was not able to have any success? Interesting theory.


When no one wants you to be successful, including people with money and the people with power, the chances of you beating those odds are very slim.

I'm not saying he did nothing wrong as a coach in the years he's been here, just that it was never going to work. His personality was never a get out there and dress up kind of guy.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18737 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:59 am to
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When no one wants you to be successful, including people with money and the people with power, the chances of you beating those odds are very slim.


I don't think this is an accurate assessment. I personally know one of the bigger basketball boosters very well and I can absolutely tell you he supported CMM as he has every coach that's been here.

Just because folks were pissed about WW does not mean none of them wanted CMM to be successful. I actually liked the hire and very much wanted him to be successful. I'm an LSU basketball fan - die hard. And I liked the hire when it happened. I was pleased. I actually think more here were than not - but there were red flags pretty early. I found the year zero stuff convenient and enabling.
This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 8:07 am
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80394 posts
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:10 am to
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When no one wants you to be successful, including people with money and the people with power, the chances of you beating those odds are very slim.

I'm not saying he did nothing wrong as a coach in the years he's been here, just that it was never going to work. His personality was never a get out there and dress up kind of guy.

You're not wrong that he was up against the shadow of Wade but you'll never get people to move on from your successful predecessor if you bring in the worst results in program history.
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