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re: At this time not one person can determine if Coach O was a..........
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:50 pm to tiger nutz
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:50 pm to tiger nutz
When I saw your thread title, the first thing I thought was that you were going to say “potato” in the message.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 3:51 pm
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:51 pm to tiger nutz
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You want to play question games would you have considered Nick Saban's 1st year at 7-4 a success or failure? Should we have fired Saban?
Well if you want to play games, at least get the stats right. Saban went 8-4 on the year with a Peach Bowl victory.
Coming off DiNardos 4-7 and 3-8 seasons, it was a completely different atmosphere. No, he should not have been fired (and neither should Orgeron after this season - in my opinion).
However- With the charade that has been the coaching hires/fires, press conference blunders, lies and the worst recruiting class in years, if he loses 4 games next year, he and Alleva should be sent packing.
I think everyone can see that this hire was a huge risk, and at the moment, it does not appear to be working the way LSU Admins (Alleva and Co.) had hoped it would. That is undeniable. We are not experiencing "growing pains" right now, we are suffering from the lack of leadership, vision and growth that championship programs build on year-to-year.
Case in point: In his second year as HC, we still have no fricking clue what the identity of our offense is. Notice I didn't say who would start at QB, RB whatever - We don't even have an identity. "Playing to the strengths of our players" as said time after time by CEO / Ensminger is not an identity.
If he is truly "building a championship program" shouldn't fans be able to tangibly see and feel the progress of that growth? Or at the very minimum understand the vision?
I feel more uneasy going into this season (which, as you reminded us, is YEAR TWO) than I did last season.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:59 pm to tiger nutz
Uhhh no, he was a bad hire. No one can dispute that.
Whether or not it works out is another story. Based on his credentials, it was a bad hire.
If you spend $100k on Powerball tickets and win, then great, but that's a poor investment either way. It just worked out despite the odds.
Whether or not it works out is another story. Based on his credentials, it was a bad hire.
If you spend $100k on Powerball tickets and win, then great, but that's a poor investment either way. It just worked out despite the odds.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:04 pm to tiger nutz
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bad, good or great hire so let's stop the crap and pull for the Tigers!!
bullshite.
He was hired for us to win titles. he publicly claimed that they were going to make the playoffs this past year.
1.we had the easiest schedule in over 2 decades AND HE lost 4 games.
2. he ran off his handpicked OC basically flushing his salary and buyout down the drain.
3. in 14 games he already has the worst loss in the 100+ year history of the lsu vs msu game.
4. in 14 games he already has the 1st loss to a mid major in 16 years.
5. in his 1st year he already had the worst recruiting class in over a decade
how anyone can look at his 1st year and not see a failure is fricking crazy.
do you want to know why he was a bad hire? because teams like Vandy and Kentucky wouldn't have him in their top 10 candidates for defensive coordinator.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:08 pm to tiger nutz
Well, we can be thankful that Alleva did his due diligence and hired the best available candidate.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:09 pm to tiger nutz
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All you are doing by bashing the coach is hurting the football program
And you keep throwing out the bait.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:10 pm to Tiger1988
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worse
Worst*
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:12 pm to tiger nutz
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At this time not one person can determine if Coach O was a..........
bad, good or great hire
I mean, are you closing your eyes, plugging your ears and humming loudly? Anyone with a pulse could tell you based off his record at OM, losses to Troy and MSU, and horrendous offseason replacing Canada with a 65 year old who "didn't want the job"= bad fricking hire.
It was a bad hire. Say it with me. It was a bad hire.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:30 pm to tiger nutz
quote:Poster tiger nutz would have been a better hire. 0-0 > 10-25.
At this time not one person can determine if Coach O was a..........good or bad hire
Neither of you know nothing, yet not being a proven loser may should give you a year to see results, whereas Ed's results were already known.
quote:Zero was 9-4, yet "success" 9-3(10-3*) got Miles fired.
For a first year coach that has the previous head coaches' players I consider 9-3 a success!
*(cancellation of FCS game Bebe tallies as a win in '17)
quote:Yes we should've immediately fired him after beating GT by 2 TDs.
You want to play question games would you have considered Nick Saban's 1st year at 7-4 a success or failure? Should we have fired Saban?
8-4 is in no way an improvement from 3-8.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:34 pm to tiger nutz
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All you are doing by bashing the coach is hurting the football program.
Can you give some examples?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:38 pm to tiger nutz
He lost to Troy at home and to Miss St by 30. Our recruiting class was the worst ranked since 2005. Not a lot to dispel the fact he was a bad hire at this time.
He won't get 3 years at this rate.
He won't get 3 years at this rate.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:49 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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If last season and this off season didn’t show you that, you’re a misinformed
What was so bad about the off season? I know missing out on surtain stings but the recruiting class did address some needs.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:13 pm to Powerman
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What was so bad about the off season?
Did you miss the OC "search"?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:17 pm to tiger nutz
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do you consider year one successful or unsuccessful?
For a first year coach that has the previous head coaches' players I consider 9-3 a success!
You want to play question games would you have considered Nick Saban's 1st year at 7-4 a success or failure? Should we have fired Saban?
Nonsense. You gauge the first year by the previous years. Two loosing seasons prior to Saban means 8-4 was a success. Miles took over a 9-3 team then went 11-2, 11-2, 12-2 NC. Miles was 9-3 (would have been 10 except for the lost McNeese game) in his last full season. O had 2/3rds of a season prior to his first full season and he still couldn’t win 10 games, lost to Troy and 3 red zone trips in the bowl game netted only 3 point.
Other than the fact that the team didn’t quit after Troy, there was little to indicate a successful season for a coach hired to improve on a coach who put up the same or better results in all but 2 of his 11 seasons at LSU.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:28 pm to tiger nutz
You new to the rant ?????????
How dare you post something positive
I am a witness
How dare you post something positive
I am a witness
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:31 pm to Brazos
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You know damn well if we won the bowl game you would have said he went 10-3.
I'm sure he would have. But we lost to N. D. on a fluke play at the end, unless you want to blame Dave Aranda. We should have finished 10-3.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:34 pm to tigersbh
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unless you want to blame Dave Aranda.
Well the defense DID fail... But I still blame O for not going for it.....
But it would not have mattered.... 10-3 would still have all the O haters still wanting him to fail....
He could win the NC next year and haters would still bring up the Troy loss....... He will NEVER live that down... The O haters are in too deep to recover if for some strange reason this team makes the playoffs... No way they can switch back to supporting him at that point...........
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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4. in 14 games he already has the 1st loss to a mid major in 16 years.
Who lost that game?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:43 pm to Mayhawman
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8-4 is in no way an improvement from 3-8.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 5:53 pm to dukke v
quote:I know a coach with 5 that still catches occasional hell over a couple similar losses.
He could win the NC next year and haters would still bring up the Troy loss ...... He will NEVER live that down.
I know another coach that couldn't live down a loss to a 100fold better team than Troy, ...probably a top 10 all time team.
Pretty sure you're a part of that.
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