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re: Are we watching an epic team implosion unfold in real-time right now?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:50 am to TaderSalad
Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:50 am to TaderSalad
For some of us old timers, this has the feel of Gerry Dinardo’s time here. He quickly “brought back the magic”, and started winning beating #1 FL at the time, following season made some awful coaching hires, stayed loyal to them and somehow ended in a total team implosion with a bad season creating a downward spiral that caused a full house cleaning of the program. Hope I’m wrong.
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:55 am to 1999
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is this not what O did at Ole Miss? we can talk all day long about muh lessons, but at the end of the day he's still the same guy.
O is nothing more than a rah-rah figure. It’s why he’s great as a interim coach (ability to rally the troops), or when times are going good (rah rah keep the momentum).
But there are also bad times and sometimes rah-rah doesn’t help. O only knows one speed (rah rah momentum) and struggles when times are bad (see Ole Miss).
Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:56 am to fillmoregandt
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O only knows one speed (rah rah momentum) and struggles when times are bad (see Ole Miss).
but times were good goddammit!
Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:58 am to geauxtigers87
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How the frick did this happen?
Joe Alleva hired an incompetent head coach instead of conducting an actual search.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:01 am to Im4LSUnTN
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For some of us old timers, this has the feel of Gerry Dinardo’s time here. He quickly “brought back the magic”, and started winning beating #1 FL at the time, following season made some awful coaching hires, stayed loyal to them and somehow ended in a total team implosion with a bad season creating a downward spiral that caused a full house cleaning of the program. Hope I’m wrong.
Dinardo made terrible coaching decisions, but I don't think he ever lost the respect of his players. O has done both in record time.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:08 am to geauxtigers87
Yes. It happens. Kind of reminds me of the Florida implosion of 2013.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:08 am to geauxtigers87
It's 2020 man
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:11 am to geauxtigers87
This is why many of us were pissed when Ed was hired. The guy has never been successful as a HC and lucked into driving a Ferrari of a program. Now he has crashed and we are burning.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:22 am to geauxtigers87
I was willing to give O the benefit of the doubt especially after last year. But that went out the window with the inexcusable Pelini hire and the trashing of Aranda. O is who we thought he was all along.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:23 am to geauxtigers87
We put the Louisiana equivalent of a hillbilly in charge of the program.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:46 am to Imber
In Dinardos time the players weren’t soft. You also very rarely had transfers.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:48 am to geauxtigers87
Idk. I’m just seeing all of this in the last few mins. I know I don’t like any of it
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:49 am to skullhawk
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Before my time, maybe some old timers can chime in, but I've heard stories this is what happened to Mike Archer. Rampant attrition that he could never recover from.
No, Archer couldn’t recruit a lick.
Go look at his signing classes and compare the number of drafted kids with his predecessor and his successors and he fell way short by any measure.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:52 am to Im4LSUnTN
quote:I heard he was told to get rid of Tepper or it would cost him his job he refused and I did cost him his job.
For some of us old timers, this has the feel of Gerry Dinardo’s time here. He quickly “brought back the magic”, and started winning beating #1 FL at the time, following season made some awful coaching hires, stayed loyal to them and somehow ended in a total team implosion with a bad season creating a downward spiral that caused a full house cleaning of the program. Hope I’m wrong.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 9:54 am to geauxtigers87
Not really!! Just selfish players, doing selfish things. Tuck ya tail and run. I'm still riding with O. I'll give him the benefit of doubt, that he'll do what it takes to get us back on course. He's earned that much with me. IMHO.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:04 am to Imber
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Dinardo made terrible coaching decisions, but I don't think he ever lost the respect of his players. O has done both in record time.
DiNardo absolutely lost the team by mid-1999. He was hard as hell on the players, with full contact practices all week with a roster around the size of this one. He backed Tepper. His handling of the QB situation was a complete joke. Once he was fired they blew out a good, bowl-bound Arkansas team in the last game of the season.
Miles got to the brink of losing the team in 08, to the point that our own players were fighting each other going of the field at the end of the Arkansas game. But to his credit, he was able to pull it back together and make some decent changes.
This looks as bad as what happened under DiNardo. I thought O would eventually pull it back from the brink, but it’s very, very close to getting completely away from him to a point where he won’t be able to fix it.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:33 am to misey94
That’s a really good, concise take. 
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:37 am to geauxtigers87
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How the frick did this happen?
Tone deaf head coach who seems to have lost sense of reality and has overestimated his own capabilities based on lucking into Burrow and Brady and inheriting Aranda.
I think in O's mind he really did it. So he could just replace up and comers with his old dinosaur buds.
He also was so drunk on success, money, new arse, that he completely shite the bed on the social movements and the impact it would have on his team.
He again, totally overestimated his ability to navigate through that and botched it.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 10:43 am to geauxtigers87
For everything good that happened last year, everything bad has happened this year. Reasonable people can see a lot of this was just plain bad luck.
Draft losses, coach losses, covid, opt outs at bad times, Brennan getting hurt, Title IX stuff, NCAA investigation for basketball dragging football down with it.
Draft losses, coach losses, covid, opt outs at bad times, Brennan getting hurt, Title IX stuff, NCAA investigation for basketball dragging football down with it.
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