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Goldrush25
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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Lester Earl


Keep digging your hole buddy.


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madddoggydawg
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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I don’t know if I’ve ever seen people in such positions of power being so bad at public relations. It’s truly astounding.
I thought you said they did this whole thing because of public relations, to please Vitale and Yahoo?


kftiger1
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
I think "it took him 35 days to talk" because he just didn't have the right advice. His original attorney told him he could not risk speaking about the issue with LSU. When he added someone more familiar with this kind of issue to his team, the advice changed and so his strategy changed.


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studentsect
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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All of this.

No matter what Alleva's personal feelings toward Wade may be, after this whole situation, his job as the supposed face of the athletic department is to make this as smooth as possible, and play it cool and calm. Talk about moving forward, and working together, blah blah. You put your happy face on and you go out there and lie through your teeth if you have to, to make it seem like you're getting along great.

But what does Alleva do? He shows how insecure he is, and how clearly affected he is by what people are saying about him, in telling us once again how he had no choice, because Wade wouldn't play nice, and didn't want to join in on their reindeer games.



I just can't imagine that there are any other schools that constantly take passive aggressive shots at THEIR OWN COACHES in press releases.

Me, every time I read an LSU press release:




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IM_4_LSU
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
What made me angrier was that Alleva gave a not so subtle shot at wade in his press release when he reinstated him.

That shite pissed me off more than anything else.


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Metaloctopus
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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I thought you said they did this whole thing because of public relations, to please Vitale and Yahoo?




I know your comment is directed at someone else, but I'm going to respond anyway.

Yes, that is why they suspended Wade. They did it to please the hacks, but completely alienated their fanbase. Public relations nightmare.

The way they handled the Miles saga. Public relations nightmare. Now this statement by Alleva, where he needed only to say that Wade had complied with their request, and had thus been reinstated, he decides to throw in a shot at Wade that he had already taken at him the last time he made a public statement about Wade.

Making him look extremely petty, and making for another PR snafu.

I'm not sure what point you're missing, but I hope this clears it up a bit.
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Lester Earl
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
Wade thought it was damning enough to where he wasn’t comfortable to talk to them, so much so he missed the NCAA tournament. To downplay it as some fabricated media story is fricking ignorant.

Wade’s reluctance to talk is all you need to justify the suspension. LSU played it right. Anyone that isn’t an emotional homer LSU fan has agreed.


TigerBite
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
Sorry Lester, your comments fit your agenda. LSU categorically blew this entire thing. They knew of the wire taps and did not prepare, then they backed their head basketball coach into a corner and were shocked by the response from fans. It was amateur hour, no matter how you try to defend it.


GeauxtigersMs36
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
Why are you a talking piece for Joe?


bengalfan50
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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Ask him. Why did it take him 35 days to talk?

How on earth do you suspend a coach when you know there is no NCAA or Federal investigation, but only rumor? Every coach ever has uttered the statement that was heard on the tape “I made a strong off”.
How on earth when the player is cleared of what you suspect the coach of doing does he stay suspended?
Joe Aleva is a stiff running the program we all love, that’s how.
Should never have happened.
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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I know your comment is directed at someone else, but I'm going to respond anyway


FWIW, I didn’t acknowledge him because he’s putting words into my mouth/thumbs that I never even said.

I generally don’t engage people who are intellectually dishonest, but I appreciate those who do and who set the record straight.

I just don’t have the patience to go back and forth with someone who isn’t intellectually honest.

I’ve stated that Joe overreacted to media pressure, and have referenced the Yahoo story, but never said anything close enough for that to have been an accurate paraphrasing of my comments.

I stand by my comments, but he’s either confusing me with someone else or isn’t being honest. Either way, it’s not worth my time to engage.

Patience is a virtue that I lack, and I do appreciate those more patient than myself.


tigerfoot
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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What did he do that was so egregious you can suspend him for the tourney, and yet keep him on as coach?
He was caught on tape talking about an offer to a player. The tape was questionable. The team asked for a clarification, he did not provide the explanation.

The school suspended him.

He has no explained the tapes. Seemingly to the satisfaction of the school.

He is reinstated.

Does that answer all your questions? Maybe you can be unmad now.


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Goldrush25
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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Why are you a talking piece for Joe?




He took a shitty position and doesn't know how to get out of it while saving face.

He could just admit that and diffuse all of this, but he'd rather double down. I'm enjoying it.
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Lester Earl
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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Sorry Lester, your comments fit your agenda.


What’s my agenda?

It’s a simple right & wrong, and executive level protocol. Stop being a homer


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Britgirl
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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once again

not overreact to a YAhoo! targeted attack with no actual evidence then publicly come out and say Wade wouldnt talk to them (pending subpoena from trial) so he's being suspended.


Amen to that.

This is the crux of the matter and is the proximate cause of all that’s unfolded since.

1. Without the Yahoo article none of this would have happened- so why was it released when it was, and why didn’t Yahoo back up their story with the entire leaked transcript, not just an excerpt?
2. Why did Alleva/King have an incomprehensible knee jerk reaction the very next day? Did they confirm sources, and the veracity of the article?
They freaked out in fear of LOIC, CYA style. They didn’t think ahead. They didn’t attempt to mitigate the situation with careful consideration. Worst of all, they didn’t support our coach without the courtesy of looking into it first.

Because of 1. & 2. we are where we are now.



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deathvalleytiger10
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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LSU played it right. Anyone that isn’t an emotional homer LSU fan has agreed.


Not a Homer and not emotional, but I disagree that they played it right.

They didn't have to have the NCAA present for Wade to talk to Alleva. (Read NCAA bylaws). Alleva should have met with Wade first and then involved NCAA if needed, or if the NCAA requested. No bylaw states NCAA has the right to sit in on member college meetings with personnel.

I know, I know. Wade refused to meet. Some reports say Wade was ready to meet with Alleva and then he backed out. Some say he backed out when Alleva changed who would be present. That would matter, but no one knows the truth about this. It just comes down to which narrative you want to believe.

I do agree LSU had the right to suspend him once he refused to meet, regardless of why he refused. For this, I think they had no choice.

They did not "play it right" when they started releasing statements disparaging Wade in the week after they suspended him. That was a total blunder on Alleva's part. He should have stuck to the original statement they released and said nothing more than, "we are ready to meet with Coach Wade." Their behavior was childish.

Wade's second statement was horrible as well where he demanded to coach. He totally contradicted his own statement when he was suspended.
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I understand the University had to take action before all the facts are in, but I would ask everyone to withhold their judgment until the record is complete. To my players and coaches, I support you 100%, and I will be with you in spirit as the season progresses. Your best response to this is to narrow your focus and make sure the last part of the season is the strongest part!


He said he understood they had to take action and then a few days later demanded they allow him to coach. C'mon man.

Lastly, they reinstate him. But, instead of taking the road of reconciliation and togetherness, they had to throw in a paragraph to chastise him again.

So, yes, they played it right to suspend him.

But just about everything else they did was amateur hour.


mmcgrath
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
No. It looks like we got through it unscathed and the team played as well as they would have with Will Wade, so no damage there.


kciDAtaE
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
Sure am. I wish WW had different representation at the time this meeting was requested. Might have our coach for the tourney


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Lester Earl
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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They didn't have to have the NCAA present for Wade to talk to Alleva. (Read NCAA bylaws). Alleva should have met with Wade first and then involved NCAA if needed, or if the NCAA requested. No bylaw states NCAA has the right to sit in on member college meetings with personnel.



NCAA requested to be there. LSU must comply. It’s in the same laws you are trying to cite.


Ted_Stryker
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re: Anyone else somehow actually more pissed about the Wade situation now?
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NCAA requested to be there. LSU must comply. It’s in the same laws you are trying to cite.



Federal investigation supersedes NCAA request.

Oh, and GFY.


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