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re: Anybody here still think O was a bad hire?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Okay. 6-2 is still 6-2.
Not really
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Could they have done better? I guess
You guess? Maybe they could have not lost to Troy and a mediocre ND team?
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It's hard to imagine still being mad about it as a new coach's first full season, though.
Sorry for having high expectations. It's why we fired Les after all.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:10 pm to LNCHBOX
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You guess?
Yeah, I don't know what magic bullet coach would have absolutely undoubtedly done better. I'm sure you have someone in mind, though. Weird conversation.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:10 pm to LNCHBOX
if we win the NC you'll be one of the first to post "BUT HE LOST TO TROY!!" 
Is this just your board persona or are you just a generally negative person?
Is this just your board persona or are you just a generally negative person?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:11 pm to I-59 Tiger
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if we win the NC you'll be one of the first to post "BUT HE LOST TO TROY!!"
Not really, but great contribution.
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s this just your board persona or are you just a generally negative person?
Thais thread is discussing the past. I didn't just bring it up for fun.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:13 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Weird conversation.
Discussing the expectations of the program we cheer for and if those expectations were originally met is weird?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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Discussing the expectations of the program we cheer for and if those expectations were originally met is weird?
To harp on it from three seasons ago is a bit so, yeah.
I want a NC every year too, you know?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:16 pm to Lester Earl
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You’re right. There was nothing wrong with the talent lmao.
how many teams can say they had a top 2 round TE, Rb and WR on the same team. And how many of them had the results on offense we had?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:16 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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To harp on it from three seasons ago is a bit so, yeah.
Who's harping on it? Are we discussing what O has done here or not?
It is something that has happened under his watch. It;s not the only thing from the past I focus on, yet for some reason it seems to be off limits. Why bother this conversation if certain things aren't allowed by you?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:17 pm to The Shed
It was a poorly executed search and hiring process that has panned out much better than I hoped. I didn't think Orgeron would be this good and I am very happy to be wrong. 
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:18 pm to I-59 Tiger
This entire thread just proves that humans have a really really really hard time admitting they were wrong.
The scratching, clawing and teeth grinding to maintain a hold on a position they once felt so sure of. Human nature.
It’s quite interesting to see.
Certainly not everyone. Some here have gladly admitted they were wrong. But there is a not small contingent of this fanbase that has a hard time even admitting that Onhas been a success thus far.
The scratching, clawing and teeth grinding to maintain a hold on a position they once felt so sure of. Human nature.
It’s quite interesting to see.
Certainly not everyone. Some here have gladly admitted they were wrong. But there is a not small contingent of this fanbase that has a hard time even admitting that Onhas been a success thus far.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:19 pm to Mohican
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This entire thread just proves that humans have a really really really hard time admitting they were wrong.
The scratching, clawing and teeth grinding to maintain a hold on a position they once felt so sure of. Human nature.
It’s quite interesting to see.
Is that what you think is happening in this thread?
Just because some dunce dropped in on the 10th page and made a ridiculous comment?Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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Are we discussing what O has done here or not?
Yeah, I'm saying his first full season showed me he could keep the team afloat. He lost one game he absolutely shouldn't have lost, lost to one other team much worse than he should have, and beat a couple that sort of surprised me.
Seems like a pretty typical first full season for a new coach. Could he have done better? Sure. Could he have done worse? Plenty of good coaches in similar situations have.
I just don't get what more there is to say about it, or what position I could take with regard to that year that would put me in whatever position you are in with regard to it. Should I still be sick to my stomach about it? I don't get it.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:23 pm to Todd O'Connor
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I also said that included 2 defensive TDs, and 5 TDs scored in OT.
the teams that finished ahead and behind us had no defensive tds?
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we scored 41 in regulation.
you did this for every team right?
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We basically got 7 extra possession on the 25 yards line and we were still 58th in TDs.
no other teams played OT?
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We had a terrible offense last year.
where did they finish in scoring? around 40th I believe...which is in the top 1/3rd of D1
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:23 pm to LNCHBOX
I’ve read the thread. There’s plenty of “I can’t get over the Troy loss” or “he hasn’t won a championship yet” or “plenty of other coaches would have had this success quicker.”
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:23 pm to Mohican
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This entire thread just proves that humans have a really really really hard time admitting they were wrong.
As I've said, if it was a bad decision then, it's a bad decision now. Nothing that has happened since then changes that.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:25 pm to Mohican
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“I can’t get over the Troy loss”
Can you link to those posts.
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“he hasn’t won a championship yet”
Factual. Threads like these are still a bit premature if we're being honest.
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“plenty of other coaches would have had this success quicker.”
Do you know this to not be possible?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:26 pm to The Shed
Get back to us when we beat the gumps.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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He lost one game he absolutely shouldn't have lost, lost to one other team much worse than he should have, and beat a couple that sort of surprised me.
I only see two losses there. I think we can all agree the Bama game was a likely loss, so no harm there. But you think that ND loss was remotely acceptable in the way it occurred, much less that it happened at all?
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Should I still be sick to my stomach about it? I don't get it.
As far as I can see, no one is saying this. So not really sure what point you're trying to make. I think this discussion has run its course.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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But you think that ND loss was remotely acceptable in the way it occurred, much less that it happened at all?
Ehh, I don't put a huge amount of stock in non-playoff bowl games either way.
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As far as I can see, no one is saying this. So not really sure what point you're trying to make.
I was just trying to figure out what is different about our position regarding that season. It remains clear as mud, so...
quote:...this is probably correct.
I think this discussion has run its course.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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Threads like these are still a bit premature if we're being honest.
I swear everyone on this board is 15-17 years old, thinking about what they're going to get for Christmas, over reaction would be the understatement of the, um hmm, "millennium," I'd like to think we're the best there ever was, will never lose another game, NCs out the arse, etc., the reality is we still have yet to do jack shite under O, no 'ships, haven't beaten the gumps, this year we've played two decent teams and struggled in both to get out with a win, Jesus kids, tap the fuccking brakes already
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