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re: Anybody here still think O was a bad hire?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:41 pm to Todd O'Connor
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:41 pm to Todd O'Connor
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Yes, but not as much as taking that new QB and putting him under center for the first time since middle school, or asking that injured OL to hold their blocks for long 5 seconds.
Our offense was only terrible against bama. It was serviceable in many ways. Rarely ever put the defense in a bind with turnovers. Opposing offenses almost always had 70+ yards to drive for a TD. The coaches relied on our strength which was defense.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:42 pm to Todd O'Connor
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He was less satisfied than y'all
this is just wrong. I trusted that what he was saying was the truth. I believed he would do what it takes to improve the offense.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:43 pm to Todd O'Connor
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But that doesn't make the Canada hire some master plan. It was a debacle.
Sure, it was one that was rectified and didn't result in anything catastrophic at all. I don't think I've said or implied anything that would lead anyone to believe I thought there was some "master plan" to any of this.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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Our offense was only terrible against bama.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:47 pm to Topwater Trout
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Our offense was only terrible against bama.
It was terrible vs. Florida
It was terrible vs Southeastern
It was terrible vs Arkansas.
we were 59th in TDs scored. And that includes 2 defensive TDS, and % OT TDS. we scored 41 offensive TDs in regulation last year in 13 games.
And talking of short field. the defense gave them the ball inside the 10 multiple times.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:47 pm to Todd O'Connor
You’re right. There was nothing wrong with the talent lmao.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I mean my main point was that the first two season shwoed the risk with O
and the risk was that we would keep being a 3-4 loss team with a shitty offense if he didn't make the right hire.
Which is why it was a risky hire.
and the risk was that we would keep being a 3-4 loss team with a shitty offense if he didn't make the right hire.
Which is why it was a risky hire.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:53 pm to Todd O'Connor
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It was terrible vs Southeastern It was terrible vs Arkansas.
who cares we won
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It was terrible vs. Florida
no other factors except for who the OC was though right?
Great defense
Terrible oline
Road game
QB that only had a fall camp
etc
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we were 59th in TDs scored
average not terrible
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And talking of short field. the defense gave them the ball inside the 10 multiple times.
yeh and your point is? my point was that our offense helped our defense by pinning opponents deep....a terrible offense wouldn't do that they would turn the ball over a lot and give opponents great field position.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:53 pm to Topwater Trout
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who cares we won
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:54 pm to Todd O'Connor
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I mean my main point was that the first two season shwoed the risk with O
I don't agree with this at all, and I thought he was a risky, if not downright wacky hire.
The first two years showed me, he was at least capable of keeping the ship afloat, which was actually something of a surprise to me.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:55 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The first two years showed me, he was at least capable of keeping the ship afloat
What specifically in year one showed that?
I will give you that he made improvements in year 2 to give hope, but year one was bad.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:56 pm to Topwater Trout
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average not terrible
We scored 41 offensive Touchdowns in regulation, which is good for 90th.
THATS TERRIBLE
and if you are wonder, only Texas A&m scored more TDs in OT.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:57 pm to OceanMan
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Are you saying that his interim stints, including the one for the job he ultimately landed, should have had less bearing on the decision than when he was a FT HC?
Yes. His interim stints should not be ignored. But neither should his previous record as head coach.
Though both should be considered.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:57 pm to Lester Earl
O's job is to make this team as good as it can be EVERY year.
Our offense was not as good as it could be in 2017 or 2018.
Thats partially on O.
You can argue the talent all you want, but we didn't even get close to the most out of that talent.
Our offense was not as good as it could be in 2017 or 2018.
Thats partially on O.
You can argue the talent all you want, but we didn't even get close to the most out of that talent.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:59 pm to LNCHBOX
What are you calling "year one", his first full season?
If so, he went 6-2 in the conference. That seemed to be keeping us afloat to me. The Troy game was awful, sure, but it seems like it's proven to be the aberration I was willing to assume it was at the time.
If so, he went 6-2 in the conference. That seemed to be keeping us afloat to me. The Troy game was awful, sure, but it seems like it's proven to be the aberration I was willing to assume it was at the time.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:59 pm to Todd O'Connor
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We scored 41 offensive points in regulation, which is good for 90ths.
you quoted that we finished 59th in TDs....there are 118-125 D1 teams which puts us somewhere in the middle. I don't know how the middle is not average but whatever
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:02 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What are you calling "year one", his first full season?
Yep.
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If so, he went 6-2 in the conference.
The SEC was dog shite that year.
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he Troy game was awful, sure, but it seems like it's proven to be the aberration I was willing to assume it was at the time.
Did you miss the State game two weeks before? Or the awful bowl game?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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you quoted that we finished 59th in TDs....there are 118-125 D1 teams which puts us somewhere in the middle. I don't know how the middle is not average but whatever
I also said that included 2 defensive TDs, and 5 TDs scored in OT.
we scored 41 in regulation.
We basically got 7 extra possession on the 25 yards line and we were still 58th in TDs.
We had a terrible offense last year.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:04 pm to The Shed
The main reason I was against the hire is because most people ONLY wanted O because he’s from the bayou. The man is doing a great job right now though and I hope he continues to prove me wrong.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:07 pm to LNCHBOX
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The SEC was dog shite that year.
Okay. 6-2 is still 6-2.
Could they have done better? I guess. It's hard to imagine still being mad about it as a new coach's first full season, though. I think pretty much anyone would have gotten a "pass" for going 9-4 and barely losing a bowl game. I honestly don't know what more there would be to say about it.
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