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re: An honest review of Brian Kelly at Notre Dame ...
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:22 pm to Outback Ray
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:22 pm to Outback Ray
Having been to many Notre Dame games over the last decade, my opinion is that Notre Dame would often play to the level of their competition. Against good teams they would be focused and play well. Against inferior teams they would sometimes be mistake prone and not execute to the level of their ability. Drove me nuts sometimes watching that team.
As a life-long LSU fan, it reminded me of many games with Les Miles, where the team would make games exciting when it should have been a cake walk.
But they would usually win in the end. Brian Kelly likes winning. He's organized and the program will be very well run.
As a life-long LSU fan, it reminded me of many games with Les Miles, where the team would make games exciting when it should have been a cake walk.
But they would usually win in the end. Brian Kelly likes winning. He's organized and the program will be very well run.
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:30 pm to rob62
A cogent and intelligent post.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:33 pm to Outback Ray
We don't like facts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:34 pm to TBoy
quote:agreed, and that's my only current semi-worry with Coach "Matt" Kelly. It was pretty obvious.
Notre Dame would often play to the level of their competition. Against good teams they would be focused and play well. Against inferior teams they would sometimes be mistake prone and not execute to the level of their ability. Drove me nuts sometimes watching that team.
As a life-long LSU fan, it reminded me of many games with Les Miles, where the team would make games exciting when it should have been a cake walk.
Now, that does stem from the top. No doubt. But it can be corrected by the assistants. Even if CBK continues that trend, and it is an "if", I would give it a higher chance that the assistants under how they are operating at LSU would act as a prophylactic to that making it to the team's performance.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:50 pm to Outback Ray
We don’t need any reviews; we can see his record with our own two eyes. That is the ultimate review.
Do we need a reviewer to tell us that Nick Saban is great? That Curly Hallman sucked?
Do we need a reviewer to tell us that Nick Saban is great? That Curly Hallman sucked?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:52 pm to TBoy
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Having been to many Notre Dame games over the last decade, my opinion is that Notre Dame would often play to the level of their competition. Against good teams they would be focused and play well. Against inferior teams they would sometimes be mistake prone and not execute to the level of their ability. Drove me nuts sometimes watching that team.
Literally, every fan base save maybe for Bama and Ohio State feels this way about their coaches over time (and even those 2 have their moments). We naturally watch our teams through a much different, less objective lens than we do others.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:53 pm to Outback Ray
Good work, man. Thanks.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If miles was winning 11 and up games a year with the same offensive production he never wouldve been fired. Stop acting like underachieving wasnt what got miles fired.
It was clear to everyone that Miles wasn't going to win 11 games without opening up the offense. It became equally clear that he wasn't going to change. 8-9 wins was typically the floor because his teams could dominate the line of scrimmage in those games, but in those other games where he ran into Alabama or an Auburn, Florida or maybe Arkansas or whoever else it was that year that could match up on the line, the inability to open up the offense and develop QBs guaranteed he was going to lose a couple of those games and that the ceiling was not much more than the floor.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:07 pm to The007
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Some of yall need something to do!
Some of y’all criticize every friggin post.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:15 pm to 4evrlsu
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Some of y’all criticize every friggin post.
Wouldn’t be the rant without it
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:21 pm to Outback Ray
Could be the best 125th post I've ever read.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:21 pm to LSUPHILLY72
It’s very simple, Miles was fired because the talent kept increasing and the results kept going in the opposite direction. He had hit his ceiling years earlier and began to decline.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:25 pm to Outback Ray
One thing to consider about BK's stint at ND
Historically bad stretches for both USC and Michigan, and 5 ACC games most every year.
If you want to feel good about Brian Kelly watch the 2017 - 2021. If you want to see some red flags look at 2016
Historically bad stretches for both USC and Michigan, and 5 ACC games most every year.
If you want to feel good about Brian Kelly watch the 2017 - 2021. If you want to see some red flags look at 2016
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:27 pm to TigerFanatic99
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playing down to your opponents
I keep seeing where ND fans say this, but just take look at Kelly’s record as a favorite. It’s like 40-1 in his time there. How can you say he played down to opponents if he almost never lost games to teams he was supposed to beat? You don’t truly deserve that label unless you drop some of those games to lesser opponents.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:31 pm to Madking
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Miles was fired because the talent kept increasing and the results kept going in the opposite direction. He had hit his ceiling years earlier and began to decline.
I have to disagree with this. Miles piled up talent at certain positions, but completely dropped the ball when it came to the OL, DL, LBs and QB recruiting down the stretch of his career. We had some glaring holes from 2013-15 because of this and that’s a big reason why we started losing more games.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:41 pm to misey94
He lost to Navy twice, he also lost to Tulsa, South Florida and Duke. All of those games he was heavily favored
Posted on 8/30/22 at 5:58 pm to Corby
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He lost to Navy twice, he also lost to Tulsa, South Florida and Duke. All of those games he was heavily favored
It was thrown out by someone on 247 that I heard repeated a couple of days ago.
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I looked it up and it was 40-4 since 2015…if you omit their terrible 2016 outlier season. That’s fudging the numbers, but the guy I heard it from didn’t mention that part.
Still, 22 of his last 23 as a favorite at ND over two seasons is nothing to sneeze at. Miles and O didn’t bounce back after they hit rough spots, but Kelly definitely did.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:18 pm to Corby
I think if you look at his first year in 2010 that had losses to Navy and Tulsa you would find that he wasnt necessarily big favorites.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:37 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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9-3 got Led Miles fired. 9-3 is unacceptable.
refusing to adapt the offense into the 21st century after the 2011 beat down of Alabama cost him his job
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:21 pm to misey94
Miles last 2 years had the most NFL draft picks ever at LSU and 17 of his recruits either started or played significant snaps on the 2019 team which surpassed that record for draft picks. OL, DL and LBs, some of the best in the NFL BTW, were part of these classes. His last 4 recruiting classes ranked 6th, 2nd, 5th and 3rd but the success did not correspond.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 7:29 pm
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