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re: 7 run plays - no yards gained
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:29 pm to Yewkindewit
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:29 pm to Yewkindewit
Unless something has changed, and it doesn't sound like it, LSU's offense has one running play, and it generally goes right over our weakest OL...and that is at LG. LSU needs more imagination in its running game. Everyone wants to run over people their own size and ability. It just isn't going to happen, especially at the goal line when the OLine greatly outnumbered. Show some imagination and run plays that somewhat confuse defenses at least for one second, which is generally long enough to gain short yardages when needed. But, I expect the same running plays that BK showed us in his first game at LSU....and it sucks.
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:32 pm to lsufreak337
quote:You are using SEVEN plays to argue the the offense can't run the ball. SEVEN plays.
All im saying is it concerning we cant run the ball on our second D in goaline offense. We are 11 practices in and the oline is still getting whooped regularly. Think there is enough film/reports to say that is our weakest link by far. In 2019 we were not breaking in a whole new oline.
Chicken correctly notes, "Scrutinizing preseason practices is futile." And you respond:
quote:Chicken is right. You are scrutinizing. You are attempting to extrapolate from a tiny sample size. It's SEVEN plays. SEVEN.
Irrelevant comment.
quote:- Salviatiquote:- Chicken
Scrutinizing preseason practices is futile.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:42 pm to moneyg
Appreciate the solid post. I just bring up an area of concern with redzone rushing against second team D and im getting blasted like i said we will be last in the sec in rushing and finish 8-4. It’s a message board to talk sports and yet everyone melts if you don’t agree we are the next coming of 2019 LSU. Hell even chicken made it seem like i was saying we are doomed. Everyone has a weakness at this point right now and i wanted to possibly discuss what could we do to try and improve. That escalated quickly.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:42 pm to Salviati
Seven plays from a goaline drill and reports from 11 practices. See the other comments. We have been talking about the OL struggle since camp started. Figured it didnt need to be said but yeh im just going off those 7 plays only.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:47 pm to QB
quote:
Unless something has changed, and it doesn't sound like it, LSU's offense has one running play, and it generally goes right over our weakest OL...and that is at LG
you think we only had one running play last year? thats not true we ran Durham on sweeps and inside zone handoffs and zone read.
this year the talk has been that we may be trying to be too creative. thats why bk told Sloan to quit being too cute all of the time and work on running the ball up the middle when we have too.
reports have been that were running all kinds of different shite,thats why bk is telling Sloan to work on some basic stuff because we're installing all kinds of shite and we need to work on the basics as well
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:51 pm to lsufreak337
The issue is, no one in this thread knows who will be "second" team. Look deeper at the personnel groupings, players (particularly on the lines) have been rotating with the "1s" and "2s" interchangeably.
If you want to point to the consistent false starts as a concern, cool. But the o-line and d-line have been very competitive in 1v1 drills. And the defensive interior is going to be VERY good this year. Everyone take a breath.
If you want to point to the consistent false starts as a concern, cool. But the o-line and d-line have been very competitive in 1v1 drills. And the defensive interior is going to be VERY good this year. Everyone take a breath.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:55 pm to Laman1978
Not always a hard rule. See “chief”
Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:57 pm to lsufreak337
quote:I'm sorry. I only judge your posts by what you write. Seemed fair.
Seven plays from a goaline drill and reports from 11 practices. See the other comments. We have been talking about the OL struggle since camp started.
Where are the actual analyses of the offense from 11 practices. Not just anonymous TD posts, but actual analyses.
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 1:58 pm to lsufreak337
quote:
Appreciate the solid post. I just bring up an area of concern with redzone rushing against second team D and im getting blasted like i said we will be last in the sec in rushing and finish 8-4. It’s a message board to talk sports and yet everyone melts if you don’t agree we are the next coming of 2019 LSU. Hell even chicken made it seem like i was saying we are doomed. Everyone has a weakness at this point right now and i wanted to possibly discuss what could we do to try and improve. That escalated quickly.
I was serious when I said this place has evolved to being incapable of considering criticism pre-season.
When the season starts, this place will change and the criticism will be way out of line. The pendulum will shift completely the other way.
The reality is, based on practice reports of many different situations, the OL looks like it has the potential to be a major weakness…like season changing bad.
It’s not definite. Information isn’t clear. But this OL may have weaknesses in the run game AND in pass protection. That’s a problem.
The hope is that this is about new faces and that cohesion will solve a lot of what we’ve seen.
you are right to be concerned. We won’t know if your concern is valid until game 1. But I’m not going to be surprised if our offense is struggling because of negative plays given up.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:04 pm to ChestRockwell
quote:
Haven't ran the ball since BK got here.
LSU rushed for over 5000 yards in 2022 and 2023, kid.
Over 5 ypc in 2022 and over 6 in 2023.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:16 pm to lsufreak337
The coaches are talking and the defenders kind of know what is coming, in a game there is the mix of potential play calls. On top of that they tend to not fall for all the influences that we will enact, opposing players can watch film to maybe learn it but guys who practice against it every day stop being fooled. Players are proving or eliminating themselves so there is no guarantee with who was out there. It's practice, it's hard and it takes time to get it humming. In the next two weeks a lot will happen
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:16 pm to lsufreak337
Goal line defense is notoriously hard for running the ball. Everyone on the defense is compacted and they were probably playing for the run. A 2 yard gain is a win, because that's a TD or a 2pt conversion from the 2 yard line in.
The reason for running goal line run is to really drill down on what needs to be worked on.
Find me practice reports of teams that are really winning at running in goal line offense right now, and I'll show you a team that has an established O-line or a shitty front 7 on D.
The reason for running goal line run is to really drill down on what needs to be worked on.
Find me practice reports of teams that are really winning at running in goal line offense right now, and I'll show you a team that has an established O-line or a shitty front 7 on D.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:20 pm to Saunson69
I don’t remember unfortunately
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:22 pm to wadewilson
How many was with JD? Aint your freaking kid either. They haven't done crap except with a running qb.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:24 pm to ChestRockwell
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How many was with JD? Aint your freaking kid either. They haven't done crap except with a running qb.
Well that was one year. With a weak RB room. And zero deep threat to keep that extra safety out of the box.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:31 pm to wadewilson
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LSU rushed for over 5000 yards in 2022 and 2023, kid. Over 5 ypc in 2022 and over 6 in 2023.
Yeah that was primarily because of Jayden Daniels and his unique ability. We struggled mightily last year with a veteran O line but no mobile qb. Now, that could have been because Jackson put on too much weight and lost his quickness, could have been because we lost Hilton and he truly opened up the defenses to only have 6-7 in the box or at least force them to play deeper passes more conservatively. However you want to look at it, last year was not a good running game from any kind of consistency basis.
Yes, we would spring a long run with Durham, but when we needed a short yardage gain we didn’t get it. It almost seemed like we never got it.
Hopefully our new O Line gels and the “failures” we are hearing about in practice are just because we have an absolutely dominant front 7
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:34 pm to lsufreak337
Please, for the love of god, PLEASE stop trying to overanalyze and make sense of every single practice report
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:38 pm to ChestRockwell
quote:
How many was with JD?
2022:
Daniels - 885 yards 11 td
everybody else - 1729 yards 28 td
2023:
Daniels - 1134 for 10 td
everybody else - 1538 24 td
quote:
Aint your freaking kid either.
Thank God.
quote:
They haven't done crap except with a running qb.
Incorrect. Of the almost 5300 rushing yards and 73 rushing touchdowns from those 2 seasons, Daniels is responsible for 2000 and 21, respectively.
3300 yards and 52 touchdowns isn't bad for a group of RB's that will be lucky to finish out their first NFL contract.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:43 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Everyone agrees that, at this juncture, Lsu cannot make tough yardage against it’s own stout defense. Legitimate concern on how this translates on the road against Clemson’s stout defense at home with a huge national audience tuning in. Cannot wait..
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:45 pm to Salviati
quote:
I'm sorry. I only judge your posts by what you write. Seemed fair.
Where are the actual analyses of the offense from 11 practices. Not just anonymous TD posts, but actual analyses.
I genuinely have no clue why this board insists on overanalyzing every single minute detail from practice reports
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