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$5 million for a recruit is ridiculous

Posted on 10/31/24 at 5:56 am
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9450 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 5:56 am
I don’t follow recruiting and haven’t watched the kid play for a second, but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap. And there’s no way it’s sustainable. Are donors and businesses going to continue fork over millions every year to build a roster? And that’s not to even mention baseball and basketball. There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72422 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:01 am to
Nobody is giving $5M to someone who has never played a snap
Posted by John Rambeaux
Heauxpe, WA
Member since Oct 2023
666 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:06 am to
I think Portnoy talked about giving $5MM to get a QB to Michigan on some random podcast and now people are equating that to what Bryce is getting. I'm not sure the figure is accurate at all.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4843 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:17 am to
First thing, it’s not 5 million a season. Thats the total potential value. It’s about 1 million a season.

Second, this is college football now. You’re either going to pay for a QB in the portal, or for one you have to develop. The portal model isn’t sustainable imo.

Third, why the frick do you care what the donors want to do with their money? If the funds are there (which they clearly are), who are you to dictate how they’re spent?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78448 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:20 am to
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Third, why the frick do you care what the donors want to do with their money?


Look, you don’t have to be a jerk about it.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5534 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:29 am to
You dick brah
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
15418 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:34 am to
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dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap

If you had $500M, would it still be dumb?

1% to decide who takes the snap.

Average price of season tickets just to watch who takes the snap is $1,500. The average income of an LSU fan is less than $150,000.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7749 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:36 am to
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it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap.
First, it's my understanding that the money will be paid over the life of the player's college career. Second, and more importantly, every pro team has been doing it for decades. They sign multi- million dollar contracts with someone that’s never taken a snap.

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And there’s no way it’s sustainable.
Link?

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There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term.
Link?

College football generates more than $4 billion in annual revenue for the 65 universities making up the Power 5. Most of the major professional sports share revenue between teams and players. Typically it's right around 50%-50%. It seems likely that at some point, players will be paid directly by schools. Many thigs will have to change, but it's what the market wants.

How many Power 5 schools are paying their players an aggregate of $30 million? ($2 billion / 65)

As a firm believer in free markets, I believe the players should receive what the market would bear if there were no regulations preventing them from receiving that compensation.

People thought that it was crazy when Saban signed a one million dollar per year contract with LSU in 1999. "$1 million dollars?!?! t’s absolutely dumb to give a coach $1 million dollars, and there’s no way it’s sustainable. There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term."

Here we are over 20 years later, and it has absolutely proven to be sustainable. Indeed, it's increased over ten-fold.

So, rather than rely on your ability to be a "central planner" and set economic policy, let's let the market decide what is sustainable.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13632 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:40 am to
5 mil for 3-4 seasons is a bargain comparatively. All these kids are getting paid. News for you, 75-80% aren't worth what they'll be paid. Just like pro sports.
That said, if 1+ million is the number initially, when/if he's successful for a year or 2, he has the ability to renegotiate. In many cases kids want a redo even if they dont deserve it, i present Sage Ryan and his attempted extortion last winter. Dont want to pay? Fine, someone else will. Remember Lance Heard? Both sides of the fence are getting riled up, one side due to just seeing the 5 million and overreacting(as I did when it was initially thought for 1 year), the other for not understanding the power of renegotiation.
Some of the top basketball kids are getting 4+ per. That's ridiculous. Most basketball programs lose money as it is.
Posted by bayoubilly57
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
606 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:59 am to
WILD WILD WEST
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5987 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:00 am to
Wait to you see how much schools pay to hire and then fire coaches.

I would love to see a rule that limits NIL to upperclassman, or at least kids enrolled in the school for more than one semester. To me that’s a rule that would serve everyone well.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:09 am to
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but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap.


why?

the NFL does it all the time and nobody cares
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12792 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:10 am to
Even 1 million for a kid out of high school! That is simply rediculous and absurd. College football is or has turned into a clown fest.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58126 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:18 am to
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Even 1 million for a kid out of high school!



Meh.. do you know how many millions a QB led NC run brings in to the university, city and state?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478319 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:23 am to
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but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap.


Not really.

Does it have risk? Yes

Is there an upside where we get the better end? Yes.

If he is who he's supposed to be, he's worth 2-3x that easily. Maybe 10x that.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58976 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:27 am to
While it is ridiculous, it’s how the game is played

Elite talent is needed to win championships

Elite talent costs big money

NFLSU
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Even 1 million for a kid out of high school! That is simply rediculous and absurd.


why?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70143 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:36 am to
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If you had $500M, would it still be dumb?


yes...and the point is if you pay 5 million this year what will it be the next year or in 5 years. when season ticket holders see a 18yr old on the bench is making more than they are they will begin rethinking putting out 5-10k a year for season tickets.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7913 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:37 am to
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I don’t follow recruiting and haven’t watched the kid play for a second, but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap. And there’s no way it’s sustainable. Are donors and businesses going to continue fork over millions every year to build a roster? And that’s not to even mention baseball and basketball. There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term.


Coaches make way too much in CFB. The marginal benefit of a good coach vs that of a good quarterback isn't even remotely close. Which is why in every pro sport in the world on field talent is making way more than coaches (including football). People don't want to hear this but players making more (in some cases WAY more) than coaches is coming to CFB and sooner than you think.

I agree on the who's funding part, not sustainable. It's nonsense that people who work 9-5 are the payroll for their favorite college team.

Eventually they'll become employees (of the school), unionize, have CBAs etc. Schools will be paying student athletes milllions of dollars every year to play sports and it's going to piss everyone off (but they'll keep doing it anyway).
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17208 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:44 am to
I guess my question is, how hard is it to sit the player that is being paid a ton of money if they are not ready or not performing?

Does the $5 million player sit if an older more experienced player is playing well enough not to lose the job or does the paid player get the nod to justify the money? That's a coach's dilemma.
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