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$5 million for a recruit is ridiculous
Posted on 10/31/24 at 5:56 am
Posted on 10/31/24 at 5:56 am
I don’t follow recruiting and haven’t watched the kid play for a second, but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap. And there’s no way it’s sustainable. Are donors and businesses going to continue fork over millions every year to build a roster? And that’s not to even mention baseball and basketball. There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:01 am to Allthatfades
Nobody is giving $5M to someone who has never played a snap
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:06 am to Allthatfades
I think Portnoy talked about giving $5MM to get a QB to Michigan on some random podcast and now people are equating that to what Bryce is getting. I'm not sure the figure is accurate at all.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:17 am to Allthatfades
First thing, it’s not 5 million a season. Thats the total potential value. It’s about 1 million a season.
Second, this is college football now. You’re either going to pay for a QB in the portal, or for one you have to develop. The portal model isn’t sustainable imo.
Third, why the frick do you care what the donors want to do with their money? If the funds are there (which they clearly are), who are you to dictate how they’re spent?
Second, this is college football now. You’re either going to pay for a QB in the portal, or for one you have to develop. The portal model isn’t sustainable imo.
Third, why the frick do you care what the donors want to do with their money? If the funds are there (which they clearly are), who are you to dictate how they’re spent?
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:20 am to ibleedprplngld
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Third, why the frick do you care what the donors want to do with their money?
Look, you don’t have to be a jerk about it.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:34 am to Allthatfades
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dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap
If you had $500M, would it still be dumb?
1% to decide who takes the snap.
Average price of season tickets just to watch who takes the snap is $1,500. The average income of an LSU fan is less than $150,000.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:36 am to Allthatfades
quote:First, it's my understanding that the money will be paid over the life of the player's college career. Second, and more importantly, every pro team has been doing it for decades. They sign multi- million dollar contracts with someone that’s never taken a snap.
it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap.
quote:Link?
And there’s no way it’s sustainable.
quote:Link?
There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term.
College football generates more than $4 billion in annual revenue for the 65 universities making up the Power 5. Most of the major professional sports share revenue between teams and players. Typically it's right around 50%-50%. It seems likely that at some point, players will be paid directly by schools. Many thigs will have to change, but it's what the market wants.
How many Power 5 schools are paying their players an aggregate of $30 million? ($2 billion / 65)
As a firm believer in free markets, I believe the players should receive what the market would bear if there were no regulations preventing them from receiving that compensation.
People thought that it was crazy when Saban signed a one million dollar per year contract with LSU in 1999. "$1 million dollars?!?! t’s absolutely dumb to give a coach $1 million dollars, and there’s no way it’s sustainable. There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term."
Here we are over 20 years later, and it has absolutely proven to be sustainable. Indeed, it's increased over ten-fold.
So, rather than rely on your ability to be a "central planner" and set economic policy, let's let the market decide what is sustainable.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 6:40 am to Allthatfades
5 mil for 3-4 seasons is a bargain comparatively. All these kids are getting paid. News for you, 75-80% aren't worth what they'll be paid. Just like pro sports.
That said, if 1+ million is the number initially, when/if he's successful for a year or 2, he has the ability to renegotiate. In many cases kids want a redo even if they dont deserve it, i present Sage Ryan and his attempted extortion last winter. Dont want to pay? Fine, someone else will. Remember Lance Heard? Both sides of the fence are getting riled up, one side due to just seeing the 5 million and overreacting(as I did when it was initially thought for 1 year), the other for not understanding the power of renegotiation.
Some of the top basketball kids are getting 4+ per. That's ridiculous. Most basketball programs lose money as it is.
That said, if 1+ million is the number initially, when/if he's successful for a year or 2, he has the ability to renegotiate. In many cases kids want a redo even if they dont deserve it, i present Sage Ryan and his attempted extortion last winter. Dont want to pay? Fine, someone else will. Remember Lance Heard? Both sides of the fence are getting riled up, one side due to just seeing the 5 million and overreacting(as I did when it was initially thought for 1 year), the other for not understanding the power of renegotiation.
Some of the top basketball kids are getting 4+ per. That's ridiculous. Most basketball programs lose money as it is.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:00 am to lsufanva
Wait to you see how much schools pay to hire and then fire coaches.
I would love to see a rule that limits NIL to upperclassman, or at least kids enrolled in the school for more than one semester. To me that’s a rule that would serve everyone well.
I would love to see a rule that limits NIL to upperclassman, or at least kids enrolled in the school for more than one semester. To me that’s a rule that would serve everyone well.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:09 am to Allthatfades
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but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap.
why?
the NFL does it all the time and nobody cares
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:10 am to Allthatfades
Even 1 million for a kid out of high school! That is simply rediculous and absurd. College football is or has turned into a clown fest.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:18 am to Swampcat
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Even 1 million for a kid out of high school!
Meh.. do you know how many millions a QB led NC run brings in to the university, city and state?
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:23 am to Allthatfades
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but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap.
Not really.
Does it have risk? Yes
Is there an upside where we get the better end? Yes.
If he is who he's supposed to be, he's worth 2-3x that easily. Maybe 10x that.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 7:24 am
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:27 am to Allthatfades
While it is ridiculous, it’s how the game is played
Elite talent is needed to win championships
Elite talent costs big money
NFLSU
Elite talent is needed to win championships
Elite talent costs big money
NFLSU
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:27 am to Swampcat
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Even 1 million for a kid out of high school! That is simply rediculous and absurd.
why?
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:36 am to lsu711
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If you had $500M, would it still be dumb?
yes...and the point is if you pay 5 million this year what will it be the next year or in 5 years. when season ticket holders see a 18yr old on the bench is making more than they are they will begin rethinking putting out 5-10k a year for season tickets.
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:37 am to Allthatfades
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I don’t follow recruiting and haven’t watched the kid play for a second, but it’s absolutely dumb to give $5 million to someone that’s never taken a snap. And there’s no way it’s sustainable. Are donors and businesses going to continue fork over millions every year to build a roster? And that’s not to even mention baseball and basketball. There’s no way this is feasible for college athletics in the long term.
Coaches make way too much in CFB. The marginal benefit of a good coach vs that of a good quarterback isn't even remotely close. Which is why in every pro sport in the world on field talent is making way more than coaches (including football). People don't want to hear this but players making more (in some cases WAY more) than coaches is coming to CFB and sooner than you think.
I agree on the who's funding part, not sustainable. It's nonsense that people who work 9-5 are the payroll for their favorite college team.
Eventually they'll become employees (of the school), unionize, have CBAs etc. Schools will be paying student athletes milllions of dollars every year to play sports and it's going to piss everyone off (but they'll keep doing it anyway).
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:44 am to Allthatfades
I guess my question is, how hard is it to sit the player that is being paid a ton of money if they are not ready or not performing?
Does the $5 million player sit if an older more experienced player is playing well enough not to lose the job or does the paid player get the nod to justify the money? That's a coach's dilemma.
Does the $5 million player sit if an older more experienced player is playing well enough not to lose the job or does the paid player get the nod to justify the money? That's a coach's dilemma.
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