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re: 3 Point Shooting Needs to Improve
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:42 am to Metaloctopus
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:42 am to Metaloctopus
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On a side note, I don't want Taylor shooting threes, no matter how open he is. He's just not a good shooter. Great athlete, poor shooter.
He shot over 40% from 3 in JUCO last year, he isn't a bad shooter.
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:59 am to thunderbird1100
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Let's keep in mind "shut down" for us is still a 66 point performance which while nothing special, it's not 58 points, or 50 points which I can guarantee you many teams in our conference hit fairly often. We've set the bar really high for our offense this season. We just do well to pick ourselves up in other ways when the 3's aren't falling.
A&M ultimately made our offense look bad because they went to a zone and we never penetrated (this is where we miss Waters) or shot our way out of it. We started to settle for a lot of poor shots and just getting rebounds off misses.
I know people see us without Waters winning, however, last night is a perfect example of us really missing him when we cant shoot our way out of a zone nor do we have many guys able to drive and kick like he can.
When I say shut down, I mean we shot under 35% for the game, and this was a below .500 team. You can't get away with that against better teams.
You're explanation as to how A&M made our offense look bad is correct, and is exactly what a zone is supposed to do, which is my point.
And I agree that we need Waters. I don't buy into any argument that anyone might make about LSU somehow being better without him. LSU has risen to the occasion in his absence. With him, they are that much better.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:03 am to thunderbird1100
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He shot over 40% from 3 in JUCO last year, he isn't a bad shooter.
He's shooting 29.8% from 3, and 67.6% from the line this year. I don't know what happened in JUCO, but his shot looks really bad at this level.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:07 am to TheZaba
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Realistically, if we just shoot 30-35% from 3 that makes us much more dangerous as opposed to 10-20%
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:10 am to Metaloctopus
Some of you have been watching too much ESPN and SEC Network slobbering all over Kentucky which they still have as a 1. They haven't won the SEC are behind LSU with TENN. Media Bias is all over Herro's performance last night and some of you have repeated it word for word.
Will Wade gameplans for the team we're facing. If it's outside shooting we go for it. If they aren't falling, you adjust and formulate a plan to win inside. We have 4 to 6 guys who could get hot at any time including Waters who has Chris Jackson range. Enjoy the success.
Will Wade gameplans for the team we're facing. If it's outside shooting we go for it. If they aren't falling, you adjust and formulate a plan to win inside. We have 4 to 6 guys who could get hot at any time including Waters who has Chris Jackson range. Enjoy the success.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:12 am to Metaloctopus
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When I say shut down, I mean we shot under 35% for the game, and this was a below .500 team. You can't get away with that against better teams.
But I mean...we kind of have this year. We shot poorly against Tennessee and Auburn and won both those games. Against Auburn because we killed them on the glass and in turnover margin. Against Tennessee because we won the turnover battle bigly. Heck, Auburn shot almost 10% better than us from the floor in that game and we still won 83-78 because we murdered them on the offensive glass and turnover battle.
We've won 5 of our 6 worst shooting performance games this year (all under 40% FG). The 1 we lost (Houston) we just choked away a 15 point 2nd half lead.
Villanova last year had a game they shot 4 for 24 from 3 in the tourney and won an Elite 8 game, a team that heavily depended on the 3 point shot. It's all about how you can pick yourselves up.
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:13 am to Im4LSUnTN
Graves didn’t help that % last night
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:13 am to thunderbird1100
For how poorly we shoot 3s, we somehow always find a way to hit one when we need it most.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:17 am to LuzianaFootball
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Some of you have been watching too much ESPN and SEC Network slobbering all over Kentucky which they still have as a 1. They haven't won the SEC are behind LSU with TENN. Media Bias is all over Herro's performance last night and some of you have repeated it word for word.
Will Wade gameplans for the team we're facing. If it's outside shooting we go for it. If they aren't falling, you adjust and formulate a plan to win inside. We have 4 to 6 guys who could get hot at any time including Waters who has Chris Jackson range. Enjoy the success.
What the heck are you talking about, guy? I haven't said a word about Kentucky or Tennessee, and haven't watched one second of what ESPN has to say about tonight's games.
Myself, and many others, have been adamantly challenging the media's dismissal of LSU, and constant butt kissing of Kentucky and Tennessee.
We haven't shot well from the outside in a couple of months. This isn't an adjustment thing. Will Wade makes fine adjustments. But, as we saw in the loss to Florida, you can't adjust for everything. Players have to make plays.
I am absolutely enjoying the success. But i'm also trying to have an objective discussion about an obvious weakness.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:25 am to thunderbird1100
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But I mean...we kind of have this year. We shot poorly against Tennessee and Auburn and won both those games. Against Auburn because we killed them on the glass and in turnover margin. Against Tennessee because we won the turnover battle bigly. Heck, Auburn shot almost 10% better than us from the floor in that game and we still won 83-78 because we murdered them on the offensive glass and turnover battle.
We've won 5 of our 6 worst shooting performance games this year (all under 40% FG). The 1 we lost (Houston) we just choked away a 15 point 2nd half lead.
Villanova last year had a game they shot 4 for 24 from 3 in the tourney and won an Elite 8 game, a team that heavily depended on the 3 point shot. It's all about how you can pick yourselves up.
I get all of that, and those are perfectly valid points. I know I said "you can't get away with that against better teams" a moment ago, but I've already stated earlier that I know they have shown they can beat anyone even when shooting poorly. I meant to say that you can't get away with it consistently, which is what you'd have to do in the tournament.
I'm believing that LSU will make the necessary improvements. I just am. Because they DO rise to the occasion. I'm only stating what, to me, is the obvious, that you can't shoot this poorly throughout the tournament. Villanova had a bad shooting game in the elite 8, but not throughout the tourny.
They'll figure it out, though. I'm confident of that.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:30 am to Im4LSUnTN
Good take, yes we need to tweak some thinks and get our snipers more comfortable taking good three point shots.
Mayes, Taylor, Days, Naz and Smart can all be effective when they are squared up and they are in rhythm. They just need to get better at getting that look and the threes will come back.
Mayes, Taylor, Days, Naz and Smart can all be effective when they are squared up and they are in rhythm. They just need to get better at getting that look and the threes will come back.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 9:48 am to Im4LSUnTN
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3 point %
Waters is pretty much on point with where he was last season, about 2 percentage points off.
Mays is playing his way out of a the rut that he's been in much of conference play (notice, I didn't say shooting his way out). His 3 point shoots are just not falling.
Smart needs to take more 3 point shots
Days can make it rain. He needs to take more 3 point shots, especially since most of his are wide open
Taylor simply is not a good 3 point shooter, but he can make some open looks
Our best 3 point shooter by percentage is Naz Reid. Reid, similar to Days, sees many wide open shots, especially at the top of the line.
All in all, I blame our overall poor 3 point percentage on Taylor. In his position, we need a better shooter. That's not to say he's a bad player in the least. That dude is the best athlete at LSU since Ronald Dupree. Besides this, Mays's 3 point shooting needs to continue to improve in the post season.
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:16 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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You won't find a solid 3 point shooting team, who plays a legit zone, with size and athleticism. If you run into a team with all that they aren't going to be 12-15 seeds.
Don't sleep on Wofford,Belmont,& Murray St
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 10:17 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:25 am to Im4LSUnTN
more like we need to stop shooting them
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:33 am to Im4LSUnTN
I’m more worried about defending the 3. If we meet up with a good 3pt shooting team in the tournament, we may be done.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 11:14 am to Metaloctopus
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it'll take a monumental effort on the boards to overcome 20% 3 point shooting. I have to believe they'll snap out of it and at least get back to shooting around 33 to 35% from 3. That would suffice, I think.
Legs gone?
There are a lot of ways to lose in hoops and 2 for 17 from 3 is near top of list.
Turnovers = #1
Free throws. One or two terrible ft shooters will be picked on down stretch.
Duke was similarly awful as lsu last night from 3 in Duke home loss to Syracuse a zone team.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 12:25 pm to iamandykeim
quote:This is a bit simplistic, but basically the truth.
more like we need to stop shooting them
Whenever we have Waters, Mays or Smart driving, we have a ton of good things that can happen:
1 they make it
2 they miss, Reid or Bigby-Williams rebounds and dunks (they are 6-10 and 6-11)
3 either the driver or the rebounder get fouled, and the team shoots FT's at a very high percentage.
Shooting 3's, if you hit you stretch the lead a hair, or climb back some. But the rebounding edge is negated with a long rebound, and the fouls don't build up on the opponent.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 12:34 pm to Im4LSUnTN
Our strength is scoring in the paint and off offensive rebounds. 3pt shooting percentage isn’t the only thing to worry about.
Duke is shooting 30.7% from 3
LSU is shooting 31.9% from 3.
Do you think Duke is gonna be hurt come tourney time cause they can’t shoot the 3?
Duke is shooting 30.7% from 3
LSU is shooting 31.9% from 3.
Do you think Duke is gonna be hurt come tourney time cause they can’t shoot the 3?
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 2/27/19 at 12:43 pm to Im4LSUnTN
I know we rebound 39% of our misses...I wonder what the stat is just on missed 3’s
I’m an optimist and think we will get hit from 3 during the tourney
I’m an optimist and think we will get hit from 3 during the tourney
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