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3 Point Shooting Needs to Improve
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:43 am
Love everything about this team...except our 3 point % is deteriorating as season progresses. 2 for 19 last night will get you beat in the NCAA Tournament. At times, we look hesitant about even shooting them right now. Hope we get that “monkey off our back” soon or teams will begin packing it in taking away driving lanes...our biggest strength.
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Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:45 am to Im4LSUnTN
They have learned they aren’t good at it and have started attacking the basket because they are elite at that. There isn’t another team in the country that can attack the basket like LSU. They have 3 guards that can do it at anytime and bigs that crash hard. There is a reason they are top 5 in the country in free throws made.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:45 am to Im4LSUnTN
We are a final 8 maybe even final four with 33 to 37% three point shooting. We risk not getting past the first weekend the way it is at this point
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:45 am to Im4LSUnTN
This is my biggest worry. Come tournament time, we’re gonna play teams that are gonna just play zone against us and likely give us some trouble
Realistically, if we just shoot 30-35% from 3 that makes us much more dangerous as opposed to 10-20%
Realistically, if we just shoot 30-35% from 3 that makes us much more dangerous as opposed to 10-20%
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 7:46 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:45 am to Im4LSUnTN
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Hope we get that “monkey off our back” soon or teams will begin packing it in taking away driving lanes...our biggest strength
When teams start packing it in to take away the drive then it will create wide open 3's. I think we will be able to hit them at a high enough clip to force teams back out. We are playing to our strengths right now, and it's working. No reason to move from it, until we are forced to.
I would be kind of nervous to run into a team that plays at a slow pace, combined with being a really good zone defense team. That may be our kryptonite.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:48 am to TheZaba
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teams that are gonna just play zone against us and likely give us some trouble
Yep. But not a whole bunch of teams are really good at playing zone. Not a lot of teams will just be able to say, "ok we are playing zone today," and it be very effective.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:49 am to Im4LSUnTN
I don't see us making a legit tourney run without being able to stretch the floor, especially with our suspect perimeter D.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:51 am to Im4LSUnTN
We let the answer walk out the door. His name is Daryl Edwards
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:52 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:Oh I know but that’s where overall luck comes into play in the tournament
Yep. But not a whole bunch of teams are really good at playing zone. Not a lot of teams will just be able to say, "ok we are playing zone today," and it be very effective.
Maybe I’m just being too worried over nothing, but just feels like after all these years finally having a good team and we’ll get matched up with one of these mid majors in the first round that has a bunch of sharp shooters and plays a disciplined zone
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:59 am to TheZaba
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Maybe I’m just being too worried over nothing, but just feels like after all these years finally having a good team and we’ll get matched up with one of these mid majors in the first round that has a bunch of sharp shooters and plays a disciplined zone
No, it's a legit concern. However, the major difference between us and those teams will be athleticism. Those type of teams will not be able to match us in that area. You won't find a solid 3 point shooting team, who plays a legit zone, with size and athleticism. If you run into a team with all that they aren't going to be 12-15 seeds.
Of course you could always run into a perfect storm. We can't shoot one night and the other team is lights out. It happens every single year in the tournament. Let's just hope it doesn't happen to us.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 7:59 am to ScaryClown
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We let the answer walk out the door. His name is Daryl Edwards
Shut up you damn idiot. He was hurt for the year anyway.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:07 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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When teams start packing it in to take away the drive then it will create wide open 3's. I think we will be able to hit them at a high enough clip to force teams back out. We are playing to our strengths right now, and it's working. No reason to move from it, until we are forced to.
I would be kind of nervous to run into a team that plays at a slow pace, combined with being a really good zone defense team. That may be our kryptonite.
Teams are already starting to play a lot more zone against LSU, and the Tigers have had plenty of open threes as a result, but they just haven't been able to make them at any kind of respectable clip.
LSU doesn't need to move from what they do best. I don't think that's the point here at all. It's just that they need to be able to make a fair percentage of their outside shots, if they want to make it very far in the tournament.
They've shown that they can beat anyone, even without the 3. It's just that in the NCAA tournament, there are a lot of teams who can get hot at anytime from the outside, and if they are playing zone and making LSU take a lot of outside shots, it'll take a monumental effort on the boards to overcome 20% 3 point shooting. I have to believe they'll snap out of it and at least get back to shooting around 33 to 35% from 3. That would suffice, I think.
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 8:09 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:11 am to Metaloctopus
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Teams are already starting to play a lot more zone against
But there is a difference between playing zone, and playing a good zone defense. It's no secret that this is going to be the key to beating LSU. We know it, others teams know it, but not many have been successful yet. Teams will really have to pack it in and help to stop the drive, and to stop the ball from getting down low. When that happens we will have crazy wide open 3's. Mays, Smart, and even Taylor can knock those down, and Waters certainly will.
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 8:12 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:14 am to Im4LSUnTN
We've picked ourselves up plenty of times this year while missing 3 point shots. The best teams don't always shoot 35-40%+ from 3 every night, even in the tournament.
Villanova was one of the best 3 point shooting teams in history last year and on their way to the national title had a total stinker of a performance in the tournament against Texas Tech. Villanova shot 4 for 24 from 3 against Texas Tech in the Elite 8 and won 71-59. Why? They grabbed 19 offensive rebounds, got to the FT line and made those (29 for 35), and played suffocating defense.
While it would be great to have a good 3 point shooting team, we really do pick ourselves up in many other ways to negate the need to shoot the lights out most nights to win like other teams tend to rely on (Auburn).
Villanova was one of the best 3 point shooting teams in history last year and on their way to the national title had a total stinker of a performance in the tournament against Texas Tech. Villanova shot 4 for 24 from 3 against Texas Tech in the Elite 8 and won 71-59. Why? They grabbed 19 offensive rebounds, got to the FT line and made those (29 for 35), and played suffocating defense.
While it would be great to have a good 3 point shooting team, we really do pick ourselves up in many other ways to negate the need to shoot the lights out most nights to win like other teams tend to rely on (Auburn).
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 8:17 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:16 am to ScaryClown
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We let the answer walk out the door. His name is Daryl Edwards
He's out for the whole season...not to mention, Edwards wasn't exactly a 3 point sniper here. He was good for sure at 37.1% last year, but he still only took 3.3 3 pointers a game because he cant create his own shot. He has to rely on other getting him wide open to take a 3. This year he was taking just 2.2 3 pointers a game and was 30% through 9 games.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:26 am to Im4LSUnTN
I’ll take defense and rebounding over 3 pt percentage any day. The shots will start to fall...maybe the timing will be perfect come March madness
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:31 am to Im4LSUnTN
The problem is that they’re not getting a lot of open looks. Usually It’s passing the ball around the perimeter and hoisting a three with 10> on the shot clock.
We still don’t have a consistent pure shooter. We have a lot of scorers than can make 3’s.
Javonte is good for 1 or 2 a game
Skylar is usually good for 1 or 2
Naz is usually good for 1
Days is good for 1
Taylor is iffy
We still don’t have a consistent pure shooter. We have a lot of scorers than can make 3’s.
Javonte is good for 1 or 2 a game
Skylar is usually good for 1 or 2
Naz is usually good for 1
Days is good for 1
Taylor is iffy
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 8:32 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:34 am to The Pirate King
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Usually It’s passing the ball around the perimeter and hoisting a three with 10> on the shot clock
Yeah, you either haven't been watching the past few games, or you are just ignorant. I'm going to guess option 2.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:35 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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But there is a difference between playing zone, and playing a good zone defense. It's no secret that this is going to be the key to beating LSU. We know it, others teams know it, but not many have been successful yet. Teams will really have to pack it in and help to stop the drive, and to stop the ball from getting down low. When that happens we will have crazy wide open 3's. Mays, Smart, and even Taylor can knock those down, and Waters certainly will.
I understand your point, and I agree in principle. But A&M was able to shut LSU down last night. Fortunately, LSU shut them down as well. In the NCAA tournament, as we all know, most every team is very good. You can't afford to be ice cold from the field like LSU was last night, and poor shooting has been the norm, lately.
I have no doubt that LSU can win some games in the tourney, by doing exactly what they're doing now. I've seen it. We all have. I just wonder how MANY they can realistically win if they don't shoot at a more respectable percentage.
On a side note, I don't want Taylor shooting threes, no matter how open he is. He's just not a good shooter. Great athlete, poor shooter.
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 8:39 am
Posted on 2/27/19 at 8:41 am to Metaloctopus
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I understand your point, and I agree in principle. But A&M was able to shut LSU down last night. Fortunately, LSU shut them down as well. In the NCAA tournament, as we all know, most every team is very good. You can't afford to be ice cold from the field like LSU was last night, and poor shooting has been the norm, lately.
Let's keep in mind "shut down" for us is still a 66 point performance which while nothing special, it's not 58 points, or 50 points which I can guarantee you many teams in our conference hit fairly often. We've set the bar really high for our offense this season. We just do well to pick ourselves up in other ways when the 3's aren't falling.
A&M ultimately made our offense look bad because they went to a zone and we never penetrated (this is where we miss Waters) or shot our way out of it. We started to settle for a lot of poor shots and just getting rebounds off misses.
I know people see us without Waters winning, however, last night is a perfect example of us really missing him when we cant shoot our way out of a zone nor do we have many guys able to drive and kick like he can.
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