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re: 3-1 against Alabama, Florida, Vanderbilt and Oklahoma isn’t bad at all. The problem is.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 12:22 pm to Salviati
Posted on 11/1/24 at 12:22 pm to Salviati
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The questions are: (1) how big of a failure is it considering the circumstances, (2) what is the likelihood of Kelly failing to make the playoffs in the future given the circumstances, (3) what is the cost and likelihood of LSU being able to replace Kelly with a coach who has a significantly better chance to fail less than Kelly to make the playoffs in the future given the circumstances.
1.) A pretty big failure
2.) next year, very unlikely LSU makes the playoff. So 2026 (year 5) is Playoffs or bust.
3.) the cost is high of course, that has never stopped any major cfb program from making a move and it won’t stop LSU. The chance of hiring a better coach than Brian Kelly given he has failed to make a 12 team playoff at LSU in year 3….50/50
As long as next year(or the end of this year) isn’t a total disaster I don’t think CBK should be fired. But 2026 is absolutely a make or break year. And I don’t think simply squeaking into the playoff as a low seed and losing the first round is acceptable in year 5 of CBK either. LSU needs to advance in the playoffs and be a serious threat to win a NC in year 5 or he needs to go.
Of course if he goes 10-2 and makes the playoffs this year, that will give him a little more leeway in 2025 and 2026. But not much, if a coach can’t build a National Championship contender in 5 years at LSU, something is wrong
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 12:28 pm
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Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:07 pm to Salviati
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I find it humorous to compare Kelly's ten-win seasons for his first two years (after inheriting a dumpster fire from Orgeron)
Yet his best year was his first year. How bad was it really? Or, was year one the high water mark?
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:09 pm to Paul Allen
A perennial 9-3 team under Kelly
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:18 pm to Lgrnwd
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Failing to make the playoffs this year with this schedule in year 3 of CBK would be a failure, plain and simple.
Some of why we are still alive for an SEC Championship game appearance and a Playoff appearance is because our schedule is relatively tough and we have performed well in the SEC, aggy game aside. That USC loss was disappointing but I wouldn’t call this year a complete failure unless the wheels fall off the bus in November
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:23 pm to Lgrnwd
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Which is why crapping the bed once again in the season opener against an average (at best) USC team was such a season wrecking thing to do
Before this past weekend people were actually saying that loss didn’t matter at all anymore lmao. Like it was a guarantee we would lose one more game max and be in the CFP
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:25 pm to Salviati
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The questions are: (1) how big of a failure is it considering the circumstances
A colossal failure
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:28 pm to Paul Allen
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Hopefully this team can beat Clemson next year
lol
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:31 pm to tigah1985
quote:quote:(1) how big of a failure is it considering the circumstances
But failing to make a 12 team playoff in year 3, with the most favorable schedule LSU has had in a very long time is a failure.
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1.) A pretty big failure
quote:Naw. A failure to be sure, but not a big failure, and certainly not a colossal failure.
A colossal failure
LSU had lots of question marks before the season started: first-year, inherited QB; lack of talent on the DL, LBs, and secondary; and definitely a lack of depth everywhere. Plus LSU has had some tough injuries.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:36 pm to Cuz413
quote:Swing and a miss. LSU is trending up.
Yet his best year was his first year. How bad was it really? Or, was year one the high water mark?
AP Rankings
2023 LSU 12
2022 LSU 16
2021 LSU Unranked (Orgeron)
Coaches Rankings
2023 LSU 12
2022 LSU 15
2021 LSU Unranked (Orgeron)
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:38 pm to Lgrnwd
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crapping the bed once again in the season opener against an average (at best) USC team was such a season wrecking thing to do
In today’s game there is zero incentive to schedule a decent team or big brand. Play instate schools and SEC schedule and we will always be in playoff contention.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:45 pm to Salviati
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Naw. A failure to be sure, but not a big failure, and certainly not a colossal failure.
It’s a pretty big failure bro.
If it were still a 4 team playoff I would agree, not really a failure. But a 12 team playoff? In year 3? With a QB that is being talked about as a possible 1st rounder? With a favorable schedule? Come on man.
This post was edited on 11/1/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:50 pm to Paul Allen
I think 2-2, IF we beat Bama we go on the road to the swamp and its never easy there,,,Vandy is no push over, they beat Bama and took TX to the end. To me this is the upset game to look for after beating Bama and FL. OK has a good defense but cannot score. I like our chances. BAMA, FL, VANDY. We could easily lose 2 of the 3.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 1:57 pm to Lgrnwd
quote:In the Preseason AP Poll, LSU was ranked #13. Not even the entire Top 12 will make it to the Playoffs considering the requirements and parameters for it. LSU was not expected to make the Playoffs. So, not that big of a failure.
It’s a pretty big failure bro.
If it were still a 4 team playoff I would agree, not really a failure. But a 12 team playoff? In year 3? With a QB that is being talked about as a possible 1st rounder? With a favorable schedule? Come on man.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:10 pm to Paul Allen
Unfortunately, Next year’s Clemson game will be the rebirth of Dabo Sweeney.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:26 pm to Salviati
Meaningless, preseason polls are wrong about teams all the time, and the fact that in year 3 under a coach like CBK, at a program of LSU’s stature to not be expected to make a 12 team playoff can be considered a failure in and of itself
Posted on 11/1/24 at 2:48 pm to Salviati
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Swing and a miss.
Year 1 West Champs
Year 2 ?????
Year 3 ?????
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:03 pm to The Pirate King
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I find it humorous that 9-3 every year is acceptable from BK but wasn't from previous coaches.
The previous coach was 9-3 or worse in all but one of his 5 seasons and ended with back-to-back non-winning seasons. If his last two seasons had been 9-3 seasons, he would not have been fired when he was. I know that is hard for you to hear, considering your feelings for O.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 3:31 pm to Lgrnwd
quote:Well, not meaningless. That's just your opinion versus the educated and considered opinion of people in the industry.
Meaningless, preseason polls are wrong about teams all the time, and the fact that in year 3 under a coach like CBK, at a program of LSU’s stature to not be expected to make a 12 team playoff can be considered a failure in and of itself
But like I said, it's a failure, just not that big of a failure.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:04 pm to Paul Allen
Bottom line: The problem is we are a one dimensional football team. We should not be in the playoffs if we cannot run the damn football.
Posted on 11/1/24 at 4:23 pm to Salviati
Ok Mrs Kelly we get it. CBK is not a failure. He should be given 10 years to accomplish at LSU what the last 3 coaches accomplished in less than 5.
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