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re: MBB Portal Targets List
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:32 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:32 am to Lester Earl
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No one said this lol
This you:
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The portal makes it easier but y’all act like it’s a game genie cheat code. The way the players filter out does not put a tier 3 basketball school like LSU at a great advantage.
Is this not saying that LSU fans shouldn't expect us to sign good players because we are a "Tier 3" school?
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No one says this shouldn’t be a reasonable expectation
Then what are you arguing? Thats all I have said this entire thread. That we should expect our coach to sign talented players and take another step forward. How is that a controversial take? How does that mean I hate CMM and LSU basketball?
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 11:36 am
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:33 am to Lester Earl
Damn, Lester Earl has become a reasonable poster who has well thought out takes. I love it.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:38 am to Mats86
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I’m not sure how you can’t have that expectation. I think given the team he looks to have, he needs to be very smart with his scheduling.
eventually you have to arrive at either he can get good enough players but can’t get good results, or he can’t get good enough players.
Sure there is some leniency. At the very least you need to see the team playing like an NCAA tournament team at the end of the season with high level play from his recruits from the last couple of years to justify that his process is working.
That's kind of what I'm saying. As of now, he's going to have 6-7 new players. That means half of the roster, possibly more, will be new. That's likely going to be the case next year as well simply because of the nature of the sport today. So if after three tries to put together a competitive roster, one that is in NCAA Tournament contention, and LSU has similar to worse results than they did this year, what reason would you have to believe he could do in year 4 what he hasn't been able to do in 3 seasons?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:59 am to Bert Macklin FBI
I’m talking about transfer portal players. They have an abbreviated shelf life. You can win year to year with them but they are not guys you build a program around. Without a roster base already in place, you are just treading water year to year.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:01 pm to Alt26
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o if after three tries to put together a competitive roster, one that is in NCAA Tournament contention, and LSU has similar to worse results than they did this year, what reason would you have to believe he could do in year 4 what he hasn't been able to do in 3 seasons?
I disagree that stagnation in year 3 means CMM can't ever turn it around. With the portal, one good offseason can turn a program around. That good offseason could just as easily happen in year 4 or year 5 as long as the wheels don't fall off like they did in year1.
Now don't get it twisted. We as fans should expect another step forward in year 3. And 17 win seasons are only good enough for so long before we should move on. I just definitely don't agree that if it doesn't happen in year 3 it means it never will.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:06 pm to Lester Earl
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I’m talking about transfer portal players. They have an abbreviated shelf life. You can win year to year with them but they are not guys you build a program around. Without a roster base already in place, you are just treading water year to year.
We are in the tread water portion of this rebuild. We have a solid core of program built guys in Ward, Reed, and Williams. We have a solid recruiting class coming in with Givens, Miller, and Miller. We also have Chest eligible to play. So the base to build around is on the roster an developing. In year 3, the portal is the duct tape that needs to hold this thing together until the HS recruiting and development is further along. Its not like we need 5+ great portal additions to compete next year. 2-3 good portal grabs takes us a step forward. There is zero reason we shouldn't expect our coach to be able to deliver on that.
Based on what we did this past season and what we have coming back, there is no reason why we shouldn't expect another step forward next season.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:15 pm to tigersham
I’m curious to see where McMahon goes with the second scholarship. It’s obvious an addition at point guard is imperative, but does he add a more traditional big man or a wing? While listed as a guard, Toby Okani is 6’8” and appears to be more in that wing mold and is scheduled to visit next week.
It’s been pretty light on news of any bigs who may be interested in us.
It’s been pretty light on news of any bigs who may be interested in us.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 12:43 pm to tigers32
I speculated that maybe we'd go the Hunter Dean route (NIL deal instead of the scholarship) with Okani when I saw he scheduled a visit with us, but the list of schools that have contacted him are solid, so I don't think he'd settle for that. Maybe McMahon is just comfortable switching out Collins and R. Miller at the five and is trying to get more wing depth. Because like you said, we haven't really been contacting many bigs in the portal.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:00 pm to tigersham
If McMahon doesn't get one or two experienced big men in the portal, he is making a mistake IMO. Reed and Fountain (if he is on the roster next year) have shown they are not the answer to compete with more powerful paint players on some teams. The other paint players on the roster are not experienced enough.
We still need a point guard and a power/forward center in the portal!
We still need a point guard and a power/forward center in the portal!
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:32 pm to tigersham
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I speculated that maybe we'd go the Hunter Dean route
Any shot he gets a 5th year and comes back?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:35 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Jordan Sears obtained in the portal. Next year's point guard.
We need a decent power forward/center in the portal, now.
We need a decent power forward/center in the portal, now.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:13 pm to Alt26
quote:Anyone who thought that ANY coach could take what McMahon was handed and jump to .500 in the SEC in Year 0 was a total idiot or just wearing the brightest Purple and Gold glasses you could find.
If McMahon would have had a season like this year last year you'd see a lot of optimism around him still.
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You can't "teach" experience. But this team is trending to be maybe the "youngest" team McMahon has had at LSU (currently 5 1st or 2nd year players). Compare that to last season where 9 of 13 players were Juniors, Seniors, or Grad Students.
Year 0: 4 True Frosh, 1 True Soph, 1 RS Soph
Year 1: 2 True Frosh, 2 True Soph
Year 2: 3 True Frosh, 1 True Soph, 1 RS Frosh
More like in between Year 0 and Year 1. Taking 3 freshmen every year seems pretty normal for a program that wants to develop within.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:22 pm to mmcgrath
Great recruiting so far this offseason Matt
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:30 pm to PNG Futbol
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Jordan Sears obtained in the portal. Next year's point guard.
We need a decent power forward/center in the portal, now.
Where does that put LSU scholarship wise? So far, portal additions have been solid but, ultimately, underwhelming. CMM really needed to add some impact players from the portal to compete in the SEC next season.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:44 pm to rds dc
A PG that averaged over 20 pts a game and picked us over Alabama and a SG that averaged almost 15 pts in the Big 12 with 1 spot left to fill is underwhelming?
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:45 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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The portal makes it easier but y’all act like it’s a game genie cheat code. The way the players filter out does not put a tier 3 basketball school like LSU at a great advantage.
Don't sell our guy short! He can get the talent here to make the next step!!!!
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:54 pm to rds dc
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Where does that put LSU scholarship wise?
It’s believed there’s 1 scholarship remaining after adding Sears.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:58 pm to rds dc
Underwhelming? You're nuts. Look at last year. That was Underwhelming
Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:50 pm to tigers32
Are we still at the self imposed scholarship reduction? 1 more season right?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:01 pm to Tigerpride18
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Underwhelming? You're nuts. Look at last year. That was Underwhelming
It's like people have no memory or don't pay attention. LSU had the #3 rated transfer class in the SEC last season. Wright, Cook & Stewart were Top 500 guys coming in. Carter and Sears rate out as 524 & 795. Unless CMM pulls a big-time post player, then this class will rate out lower than last season's transfer class.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 4:04 pm
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