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re: Good recruiting has to happen before winning championships, not the other way around
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:56 pm to Midtiger farm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:56 pm to Midtiger farm
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Clemson's previous 4 classes before the 2016 championship avg 12.75 Michigan's avg was 10.75 before this season You continue to show you have no idea what you are talking about
Once again, recruiting is not just about recruiting rankings. Sometimes it’s about actual talent evaluation and finding the diamonds in the rough.
Clemson’s roster was absolutely loaded, won them two national championships, and sent tons of guys to the NFL. That supersedes any recruiting rankings that were assigned to them at that time.
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:08 pm to cbree88
upvote for a decent rant
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:23 pm to cbree88
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Once again, recruiting is not just about recruiting rankings.
Yet you were the one on here talking about how Kelly needs to recruit top 5 classes all the time
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:08 pm to cbree88
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Nick Saban was consistently recruiting in the top 5 at LSU.
Not really. In his last two seasons, 2003 & 2004, he was top 5. 2000-2002 his best year was #15 I believe.
So he probably would have continued that based on what he did at Bama but that is pure speculation.
Take a look at Clemson before winning their first Natty and subsequently. Their recruiting stepped up considerably post NC1.
Recruiting is a big part of winning championships and seems more and more important every year. But winning also helps recruiting. It's a yin and yang thing.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:07 am to J2thaROC
"Some men, you just can't reach."
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:30 am to cbree88
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Yep. Not really the point of this post though Hopefully you actually read it and your reading comprehension didn’t fail you.
It’s absolutely the point of your post. Are you joking? Do you think that your post is considered hard reading?? It wasn’t. You are trying to tell us that we need to recruit at a high level to win championships. We know that. Groundbreaking stuff.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:44 pm to cbree88
You don’t say!
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:48 pm to Midtiger farm
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Yet you were the one on here talking about how Kelly needs to recruit top 5 classes all the time
Obviously Saban's top 20 classes were great because they were 20 years ago and the hardware exists.
Meanwhile Kelly's top 5 classes are trash because............I dunno.
Rummy smacked this idiot OP down on page 1 and he still started another thread on it.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:16 pm to cbree88
well… I like last years class and this years class.
so maybe the coaches know this too
so maybe the coaches know this too
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:41 pm to cbree88
The thing is that none of us will know when the great recruiting happens, just as none of us knew at the time that our seventh ranked 2017 class was the best in the country. And none of us knew, in 2001, that Saban was recruiting so well.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:30 pm to cbree88
Your other thread wasn't an appropriate place for this? You sure think highly of yourself while looking down on us simpletons, buddy. Making a statement doesn't equate to having wisdom. Two things can be true at the same time, but go on feeding your football ego and showing everyone how much you think you know.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:12 am to GeauxVU
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If you’re incapable of seeing that we’re recruiting at an extremely high level, you’re blind.
Without question, recruiting is on a fairly significant uptrend. The problem - as always - with LSU recruiting is that there always seems to be a glaring hole. It was tough, for the longest time, to get QBs, offensive tackles and, to a lesser degree, interior DL and linebackers. LSU has, historically, been blessed with more options at corner, receiver, running backs, IOL, edge rushers and TEs than needed.
Under Kelly, OL recruiting (and development) has been well above our historical trend, particularly at tackle, plus the quality and depth at QB. What has shocked longtime fans is the utter lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. And what high grade talent that is there, it does not appear to be developing. Now, we have had a complete overhaul of the coaching staff on that side of the ball.
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And it’s not just acquiring the talent, it’s developing it - something LSU has historically done as well as any school.
Are Harold Perkins and Mason Taylor playing better than they did at freshman? Are we developing talent? Now, to be fair, we clearly weren't developing talent under O - basically they left the same player they showed up as (possibly excepting JB9).
So, can I be happy about the upswing in recruiting and the defensive coaching staff changes and still not wear purple and gold glasses and notice the lack of defensive talent?
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 8:14 am
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:56 am to cbree88
This sure is getting a lot of attention for a thread that supposedly was terrible. 
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:59 am to Ace Midnight
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Without question, recruiting is on a fairly significant uptrend. The problem - as always - with LSU recruiting is that there always seems to be a glaring hole
Correct. The last recruiting class looked really good on paper except that DT wasn’t really addressed in the strongest way.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:16 am to cbree88
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I’m not referencing the way LSU is recruiting right now, which is actually at a really high level. I’m just addressing a general concept.
So you admit that the thread is completely unnecessary?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:20 am to cbree88
quote:ok but how do you know that if you're not looking at recruiting rankings, which is your premise
Correct. The last recruiting class looked really good on paper except that DT wasn’t really addressed in the strongest way.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:24 am to cbree88
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Wrong. Both of Clemson’s national championship teams were absolutely loaded with talent. This year’s Michigan team had a good bit as well. You never win big if you don’t have the horses. Good recruiting and high recruiting rankings are not the same thing. Sometimes finding low-ranked diamonds in the rough is part of good recruiting
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:26 am to Ace Midnight
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The problem - as always - with LSU recruiting is that there always seems to be a glaring hole.
This skank was the last “glaring hole”
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:49 am to J2thaROC
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This skank was the last “glaring hole”
And you accuse ME of putting stupid, useless, pointless information in threads? Lmao
Pot meet kettle
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