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re: Genuine question, not melting at all - Why are we unable to match other schools' in NIL?
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:10 pm to LifeAquatic
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:10 pm to LifeAquatic
Even in the new world of NIL, players will want other things too.
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Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:10 pm to Talmaniandevil_2534
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TAMU has biggest and richest alumni assoc. they have 70,000 enrolled year in and year out.
Right - i understand this much. That's the reason we can't match them overall in terms of money spent.
But it doesn't make sense that they've already spent probably 20x more money than us on this class and can STILL easily outbid us on the final couple guys.
I understand and expect that we are not going to be able to compete with them on NIL overall - but it doesn't make sense to me that we can't even compete with them for ONE GUY.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:11 pm to deathvalleytiger10
A&M raised 4 billion in donations over a 9 year campaign for improvements to the University. Alumni love their university and fully support all aspects.
LSU started a 1.5 billion dollar campaign last March and raised 50 million in it's first year, not a great start. For, the most part LSU alumni/fans love the sports at LSU and support with ticket charges and are willing to pay the fees when seeing a return, but most are unhappy with the direction the administration has gone regarding the University.
LSU is last in alumni giving in the SEC, and with the path the administration is going down LSU will probably remain dead last for years to come.
LSU started a 1.5 billion dollar campaign last March and raised 50 million in it's first year, not a great start. For, the most part LSU alumni/fans love the sports at LSU and support with ticket charges and are willing to pay the fees when seeing a return, but most are unhappy with the direction the administration has gone regarding the University.
LSU is last in alumni giving in the SEC, and with the path the administration is going down LSU will probably remain dead last for years to come.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:12 pm to Hurricane Mike
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Maybe this will open more voters eyes to the real state of LA and they will quit voting for Dims that don't create shite for the state
Dims and Repubes has been fricking this state for 100 years. Its not going to change
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:13 pm to LifeAquatic
LSU/Louisiana will never compete with wealthy states in the NIL game. We can offer something fair, but if it’s all about money for a kid…we will fade into obscurity! Sad but true!
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:14 pm to LifeAquatic
Other schools?
You mean A&M?
You mean A&M?
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:14 pm to LifeAquatic
Our boosters just shelled out $17 mil to the shrimp boat captain and $9 mil to BK
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:18 pm to LifeAquatic
Everyone keeps tossing out that aTm is the biggest and richest. That might be true about their endowment, but that has nothing to do with NIL. Also, if anyone claims they just have the richest alumni that might be true (tho I doubt it) that doesn’t mean anything either. There are plenty of very wealthy alums who wouldn’t ever pay for athletes for various reasons. What it comes down to is what support from businesses or individuals (who establish businesses for NIL) who are willing to make the investment. It does seem like aTm is one of the schools most willing to spend, but it doesn’t mean they’re the richest. It might mean they’re the dumbest fans who assume paying the most will buy them a championship.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:22 pm to LifeAquatic
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I guess i just don't understand why we're NOT, then.
It’s probably hard to keep going back to the same guys to 1) buy Orgeron out, 2) pay for Kelly and staff, and 3) NIL for recruits when we are literally just 2 years removed from going 15-0 and fielding the greatest college football team of all time. We won 3 NCs and played for another in the past 18 seasons—we are not as desperate as A&M.
But the coordination is also a huge part of it. They had their ducks in a row a long time ago. It’s too rushed for a lot of Baton Rouge businesses to have had time to properly vet all this.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:22 pm to dkreller
Lol it’s absolutely that we can’t match! Our fan base keeps celebrating the little Gordon deals while the Aggies have billionaires lined up to outbid.
There’s much more resources there for alignment
There’s much more resources there for alignment
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:23 pm to BTRtoIAH
This is precisely correct. They’ve got enough rich alumns who are DESPERATE to win a championship.
Your talking about a 30 million dollar yearly commitment to buying kids, which doesn’t include what you’ve already got committed to kids in the team. It’s an unsustainable model for 99.99% of universities and alumni. The cost will always increase.
There is zero ROI for these NIL deals to kids. They’re just paying them to be there, not hock their product or company.
If it was a wealthy business man I doubt I’d invest. I could think of better uses for 300k thank buying a WR or DB in which I’ll never get anything in return.
Your talking about a 30 million dollar yearly commitment to buying kids, which doesn’t include what you’ve already got committed to kids in the team. It’s an unsustainable model for 99.99% of universities and alumni. The cost will always increase.
There is zero ROI for these NIL deals to kids. They’re just paying them to be there, not hock their product or company.
If it was a wealthy business man I doubt I’d invest. I could think of better uses for 300k thank buying a WR or DB in which I’ll never get anything in return.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:25 pm to LifeAquatic
Just to echo what some others have said - it’s not just a matter of having a wealthy alumni base. Stanford, Duke and probably Vandy have collective alumni wealth that could swamp just about any other P5 program. Just the Stanford alums at Google could fund NIL deals into perpetuity that no other program could match.
Here’s what makes A&M unique - there’s a sizable and committed group of Aggie alums with 7 to 9 figures of net worth (the Ags don’t have many billionaire alumni; UT swamps them there) willing to do whatever it takes to win a National Championship. Further, the Aggies have been really aggressive and progressive in their collective NIL strategy. They’ve even found ways to pool small dollar donations for NIL. LSU and many other schools are way behind, but we can catch up.
I’m particularly intrigued by small dollar-funded NIL programs. Small dollar donations via digital platforms has transformed fundraising in politics, and it could be a strategy for less-affluent alumni bases (like ours) to get on par with others.
Here’s what makes A&M unique - there’s a sizable and committed group of Aggie alums with 7 to 9 figures of net worth (the Ags don’t have many billionaire alumni; UT swamps them there) willing to do whatever it takes to win a National Championship. Further, the Aggies have been really aggressive and progressive in their collective NIL strategy. They’ve even found ways to pool small dollar donations for NIL. LSU and many other schools are way behind, but we can catch up.
I’m particularly intrigued by small dollar-funded NIL programs. Small dollar donations via digital platforms has transformed fundraising in politics, and it could be a strategy for less-affluent alumni bases (like ours) to get on par with others.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:27 pm to LSUDobber
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Our boosters just shelled out $17 mil to the shrimp boat captain and $9 mil to BK
This is kind of part of my point. LSU has never had the slightest bit of trouble raising booster money for the football program. But now all of a sudden we are absolutely scraping the barrel just for one NIL deal at the end of the recruiting cycle.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:27 pm to LifeAquatic
When your alumni run the likes of Exxon and ConocoPhillips,their resources are unlimited.It’s the NFL with zero salary cap.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:29 pm to LifeAquatic
Don't worry, Matt Moscona has been telling you for years that this is good thing. I called in an told him this was going to happen 5 years ago and he hung up on me.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:29 pm to LifeAquatic
A&M base is willing to dish out the cash to win a national championship. Long term I don't think they give out what's going out now. Most LSU fans have seen multiple national championships in their lifetime so they're not as Gung ho. A&M is a school, by all metrics, should have done far more than they've done over the last 20 years.
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:30 pm to Geauxld Finger
Yep, this is right. A&M is actually nowhere close to the wealthiest alumni base in the country (schools like Harvard, Stanford, Michigan, USC, Texas way above them). The difference is that A&M alums are DESPERATE to win in football. Those other schools' alums have better things to spend their money on.
Also let's stop calling this "NIL". They're dropping bags to parents and handlers, at record levels. It's not the same as what other schools are doing with these technically legal NIL collectives and stuff. That's why nothing has been publicized at A&M.
Also let's stop calling this "NIL". They're dropping bags to parents and handlers, at record levels. It's not the same as what other schools are doing with these technically legal NIL collectives and stuff. That's why nothing has been publicized at A&M.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:32 pm to NWHoustonTiger
The numbers A&M is promising these signees that I heard thrown around by someone on tv yesterday is insane if true. We definitely would not be coming up with that kind of money. Apparently, even the big pay schools from pre-NIL like Bama and Georgia don’t have it set up like A&M either right now.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 12:32 pm to Tigercub1997
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A&M and other schools boosters and alumni have more money to spend right now. Simple as that
Right now? Try in perpetuity.
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