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Damonic Williams DT enters Portal

Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by CaneyLake
Member since Jun 2023
163 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:17 pm
I see people mentioning USC as a potential destination but this should definitely be one we kick the tires on.



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Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
332 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

I see people mentioning USC as a potential destination but this should definitely be one we kick the tires on.


This is where Kelly needs to act like Saban. Reel him in or we play him week 1 with a new center. PAY WHATEVER
Posted by 304tiger
West Virginia
Member since Jan 2022
713 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:28 pm to
64.8 PFF grade, which is slightly below Patrick Jenkins at 65.0 FWIW.

I think the guy from Kent State has an elite PFF at like 85.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1511 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:29 pm to
Is this a highest bidder situation?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14011 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

This is where Kelly needs to act like Saban.


Quit because he doesn't know how to navigate the NIL / transfer portal world.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50885 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:44 pm to
You’re not wrong
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
332 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Quit because he doesn't know how to navigate the NIL / transfer portal world.


No. Prime Saban that recruited kids away from us just so they wouldn’t start for us the following season
Posted by ScrappyDoo
The Box
Member since May 2015
191 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:51 pm to
But he quit because he couldn't handle the portal.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1792 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

64.8 PFF grade, which is slightly below Patrick Jenkins at 65.0 FWIW


PFF grade is a little iffy for certain positions - DT being one of them. With the way PFF does its grading (each play is assigned a grade of -2, -1, 0, 1, or 2, with 0 supposed to be the "default", which are then added up and compared to other players), grades can be significantly impacted based on scheme or a DT's particular assignment on a particular play. Some defenses want their DTs eating space, others want them shooting gaps, some others want something in-between--and the grader doesn't have access to that information. Because 0 is (as far as i understand) supposed to be the grade on most plays (with other grades representing notably good plays or notable screwups), certain schematic assignments for DT can sometimes have different "baseline" grades - because (a) "splash plays" dont occur at the same rate in all roles (e.g. QB pressures vs. run-stuffs), nor do negative plays occur at the same rate in all roles. For instance, a guy who is supposed to be a space-eating run-stuffer doesn't have a whole lot of opportunity for negative plays, while a 3-tech pass-rushing IDL is a more "high-risk/high-reward" role. But those guys are all getting lumped together when it comes to calculating the final grades. And that doesn't even account for the fact that the graders don't even know what the player is being asked to do.


Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
332 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:23 pm to
A&M and Southern Cal are early leaders. Ridiculous
Posted by Lock,Stock
Member since Nov 2012
263 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:36 pm to
This guy is a baller, don’t just look at PFF.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13687 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

64.8 PFF grade, which is slightly below Patrick Jenkins at 65.0 FWIW.


Different competition levels and DT is not the best position for PFF - not that it isn’t a single useful data point, but it needs context.

This kid is good and would start for us Day 1.
Posted by OJsLifeCoach
NYC
Member since Aug 2023
1168 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

A&M and Southern Cal are early leaders. Ridiculous


We're already a top program. Then we go and get the best DL coach in the country. How does that not move us to the front of the line with a lot of these guys?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278627 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

PFF grade is a little iffy for certain positions - DT being one of them. With the way PFF does its grading (each play is assigned a grade of -2, -1, 0, 1, or 2, with 0 supposed to be the "default", which are then added up and compared to other players), grades can be significantly impacted based on scheme or a DT's particular assignment on a particular play. Some defenses want their DTs eating space, others want them shooting gaps, some others want something in-between--and the grader doesn't have access to that information. Because 0 is (as far as i understand) supposed to be the grade on most plays (with other grades representing notably good plays or notable screwups), certain schematic assignments for DT can sometimes have different "baseline" grades - because (a) "splash plays" dont occur at the same rate in all roles (e.g. QB pressures vs. run-stuffs), nor do negative plays occur at the same rate in all roles. For instance, a guy who is supposed to be a space-eating run-stuffer doesn't have a whole lot of opportunity for negative plays, while a 3-tech pass-rushing IDL is a more "high-risk/high-reward" role. But those guys are all getting lumped together when it comes to calculating the final grades. And that doesn't even account for the fact that the graders don't even know what the player is being asked to do.



So what did you determine after you watched every snap this guy has played?
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5068 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:26 pm to
Lester, what was your assessment of him after watching him play? Is he a take, or should LSU pass? We definitely need interior guys on defense.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6339 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

How does that not move us to the front of the line with a lot of these guys?

All about money now.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66806 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

So what did you determine after you watched every snap this guy has played?


how many employees does PFF have that they can watch every player of every snap of every college game?

always seemed a little iffy to me.
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
77 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:01 pm to
Everyone complaining needs to donate to the NIL fund
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13687 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:09 pm to
Also can we talk about his name? Is it pronounced “Demonic”?

Amazing for a DT.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:47 pm to
I thought there weren't going to be any good dts in the spring portal?

At least that's what someone on here said.
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