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re: Damonic Williams DT enters Portal

Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

how many employees does PFF have that they can watch every player of every snap of every college game?

always seemed a little iffy to me.


I was just thinking this. They get those grades pit pretty quickly too.
Think about how many players there are in college football and they watch every snap.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30048 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

I thought there weren't going to be any good dts in the spring portal?


So 4-6 decent DTs in the portal is a lot? You realize 30 schools are all competing for 4-6 guys
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
757 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:28 pm to
Ruffino was mentioning this is gonna all come down to the dollars and if someone could write a 7 figure check for LSU, now would be a great time to do it with our competition being the likes of USC, A&M, Miami, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17611 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

Reel him in or we play him week 1


This has not worked well for Kelly in either of the FSU games while he was at LSU. Give him a blank check. It's a massive need and he could be a massive get.

I think this is why there isn't any movement yet, waiting to make sure everybody is entered before we start offering MSRP.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58857 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Think about how many players there are in college football and they watch every snap.


You mean like high school scouts?
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1595 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:11 pm to
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So what did you determine after you watched every snap this guy has played?


I found what he said helpful.

Have a downvote, Lester.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10572 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:58 am to
Just stopping by to say PFF is shite
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42974 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:34 am to
Oklahoma first visit
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
332 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:34 am to
quote:

I think this is why there isn't any movement yet, waiting to make sure everybody is entered before we start offering MSRP.


Yup. Kelly needs to sack up or this season is over before it starts. So frustrating
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12410 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:50 am to
HS "scouts" are journalists for the most part and it's a business with caveats built in and publicly known. PFF pawns itself off as the leader in collegiate and professional scouting and expect their determinations to be the standard in which all are compared. Huge difference and none of them are watching all the snaps they lead you to believe they are. Even if they are they still don't relay the caveat that they don't really know what the assignment was just an educated guess based on tendencies and what others on the play were doing. It's a useful tool like much of analytics but also with much of analytics, it lacks context and instead is an orgy of formulated numbers that are expected to be taken as "evidence" a player is good, bad or average.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278627 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:56 am to
I’m sure you know more about a guy you didn’t know existed 1 day ago lol

I love watching you guys trying to determine who is good or not in the portal,

If player is at a position of need, he’s automatically good. What anyone else says about them doesn’t matter. And this is why you guys are disappointed in every portal player once they hit the field
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2509 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:06 am to
The 2025 recruiting class begs to differ. Now I will grant you that the NIL opportunities for high school recruits and transfers is vastly different, but I would counter that the transfer portal is simpler, if not much more expensive.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30048 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:56 am to
quote:

I’m sure you know more about a guy you didn’t know existed 1 day ago lol I love watching you guys trying to determine who is good or not in the portal, If player is at a position of need, he’s automatically good. What anyone else says about them doesn’t matter. And this is why you guys are disappointed in every portal player once they hit the field


Facts
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56663 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:38 am to
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Lester, what was your assessment of him after watching him play? Is he a take, or should LSU pass? We definitely need interior guys on defense.



We don't have the luxury of being picky.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58857 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:50 am to
Over the years I’ve been invited with college coaches to scout players, I’ve been asked to attend high school games, give an honest assessment of a player. I’ve been to games, called a college coach told him, watch the film on this kid.
I once gave a college coach a kid in BTR, to watch film on. I said in your offense and special teams, he would average 150 yards per game. He watch film, called me back, said he would be in town Wednesday, at the kids school Thursday. He arrived at the school, the young man had given a verbal to Michigan the night before.

I watch Austin Deculus, Russell Shepard and Danielle Hunter in high school. Way before they made it to LSU.
My cousin is a scout that is asked for an evaluation of college players, by many NFL teams. NFL teams want as much information as they can compile together.

Like myself, everyone has an opinion, that’s one thing that makes sports interesting.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:52 am to
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Think about how many players there are in college football and they watch every snap.


You mean like high school scouts?


No, the high school "scouts" don't claim to watch every snap of every game. That's a huge difference, but you already knew that.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1941 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:52 am to
I thought Alabama had the exception roster size which allowed them up to 120 on scholarship . . .

I speak in jest, but it always seemed like that was happening there . . .
Posted by AlldayTiger
Member since Nov 2021
812 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:56 am to
Lots of DL guys in the portal right now. Hopefully, Kelly and Davis can reel a couple of these guys in. The most attractive thing about LSU for them should be that they can start right away, and that they will play and play often.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278627 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:57 am to
Chalky, what is your baseline for forming an opinion on players you know nothing about?

You have to start somewhere. I understand most of your opinions are chalk & boring & status quo, but where does chalky start?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27318 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:06 am to
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You have to start somewhere. I understand most of your opinions are chalk & boring & status quo, but where does chalky start?


You must be talking about yourself.

I know you get all your opinions from pff data so you are going hard for them. All good. Keep it up champ.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 10:08 am
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