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re: Damn…Jay got us loaded!

Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:57 am to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
109636 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 7:57 am to
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Then why not sign with Cleveland, get 1.7mm and be in the best farm for pitching development in the league?


That's why I put FWIW in the summary. The JUCO route makes no sense to me. If he wants to bet on himself, go to LSU and become a top 10 pick. I just don't see him getting what he wants by going to JUCO. But, what do I know?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291499 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:15 am to
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This is true but wasn’t his issue that Cleveland just ran out of money? In other words, they thought he was worth more but didn’t have the means to offer it?


I think Cleveland took a gamble and drafted him thinking they could talk him off of his unrealistic number. Not so much they ran out of money. They never intended on paying him what he was asking(unlikely anyone else was, either).

Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79489 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:30 am to
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I think Cleveland took a gamble and drafted him thinking they could talk him off of his unrealistic number. Not so much they ran out of money. They never intended on paying him what he was asking(unlikely anyone else was, either).



It's a calculated risk that some teams take specifically in the second round. Because they know they can get the pick back in the next draft. It was similar to what the Pirates did with Cervantes last year.

It probably happens way more than people realize but rarely falls through.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17945 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:55 am to
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It's a calculated risk that some teams take specifically in the second round. Because they know they can get the pick back in the next draft. It was similar to what the Pirates did with Cervantes last year.


I'm surprised they took that risk with a guy whose number was allegedly double what the draft slot was. That seems a bit optimistic.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291499 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:02 am to
Not crazy if it was known he was not interested in going to college.

Also not crazy since they knew by that point, he was not actually a $4mil player
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
1463 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:03 am to
Gotcha. That makes sense. Kid needs some adult direction then.
Posted by Teauxler
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
3841 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:15 am to
Year 1 JUCO - no money

LSU year 1/2/3 - can match what Cleveland offered. Plus 3 years at LSU would place him on a quicker route to AA ball and not have to go through the crap that is rookie and Low A
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79489 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:24 am to
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LSU year 1/2/3 - can match what Cleveland offered.


I don't think that's true.

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Plus 3 years at LSU would place him on a quicker route to AA ball and not have to go through the crap that is rookie and Low A


99% of guys drafted out of the SEC still start their pro careers in Low A.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69515 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:25 am to
His NIL at LSU, even for three years, will not be $1.7M. I don’t think our baseball players are pulling in that kind of NIL money.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22861 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:29 am to
How much do you people think baseball players are getting NIL wise
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
109636 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:47 am to
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How much do you people think baseball players are getting NIL wise

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
109636 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:52 am to
Sounds like this kid is getting terrible advice. This is the Guardians viewpoint on it. Sounds like a mess... starts at the 28 minutes mark...

Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1868 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:58 am to
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Not crazy if it was known he was not interested in going to college. Also not crazy since they knew by that point, he was not actually a $4mil player


I agree with all this and it’s all kind of crazy compared to what the public was hearing. His stock started publicly sliding a little and we started to hear he was going to be tough to sign away from his commitment.

In reality, his ranking probably started to settle around where teams really valued him and his agent was putting signability stuff out there to increase his value. His bluff ended up getting called and now he’s in a situation he definitely didn’t expect.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12239 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:01 am to
Sounds like this kid has ZERO intention of doing School.


According to that podcast, he went to a “baseball” school for high school- all online learning last year.

Tells me that he has ZERO interest in having to do even the bare minimum required of an LSU baseball player.


He needs to go to JUCO for the year and put his name back in the draft.

He can literally do the bare minimum at a JUCO to stay eligible.

Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79489 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:09 am to
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According to that podcast, he went to a “baseball” school for high school- all online learning last year.

Tells me that he has ZERO interest in having to do even the bare minimum required of an LSU baseball player.


Does this thought process also apply to Coleton Brady?
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17945 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 11:21 am to
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Sounds like this kid has ZERO intention of doing School.


If this was the case then he wouldnt turn down 2 mil to go to school

It sounds like he just has some extremely bad management
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
5410 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 12:36 pm to
I mean, if Moscona is saying it probably the opposite so maybe we should get excited
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58262 posts
Posted on 7/27/26 at 1:40 pm to
Right wrong or indifferent some kids just want that MLB development.

Have fun bussing around thw Cali league, kid

I hear Modesto's great this time of year
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