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re: would you accept this concrete driveway
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:53 am to bayou choupique
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:53 am to bayou choupique
I had a bunch laid three summers ago. No cracks then, and no cracks now. It was right around this time of year too. They even inlayed Chicago bricks on a portion of the driveway. Still in perfect condition
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 11:47 am to Pahnew
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You don't tool in expansion joints.
This
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:17 pm to BengalBlood81
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I had the same thing happen to mine and they told me it was normal moisture cracking that’s common and wouldn’t replace it.
So in other words they said they suck at their job often.
Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:44 pm to Hammertime
quote:That is what I am saying. I used to just let shite go, but I came to the realization that they charge me a fortune and I am not getting a discount for poor quality.
I had a bunch laid three summers ago. No cracks then, and no cracks now. It was right around this time of year too. They even inlayed Chicago bricks on a portion of the driveway. Still in perfect condition
Now, that crack in the OPs drive is probably inconsequential, and I am certain they will NOT replace it but the GC should know your displeasure so that he may watch shite closer and hire better subs for the remainder of the project to insure your happiness.
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:07 pm to bayou choupique
Wire mesh does not do anything if it’s laying on the ground. It needs to be at the mid depth of the slab. I’ve seen it happen over and over again. They lay the mesh down and pour concrete on top of it with the concrete finishers stepping on the wire mesh. Wasted effort and money.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:25 pm to tigerfoot
Would you be happy buying a brand new car, and then having the dealership putting a huge scratch down the side of it when they were cleaning it for you?
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:41 pm to bayou choupique
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I am building through a GC. He is going to meet with the concrete sub today
Unless this is a low end house then I'd tell him he needs to either fix it or give you some money back. Its on the GC ultimately, that's what you are paying him to do to watch over the subs and make sure its done right.
As said, they likely won't replace it. But they can give you some money back.
Others said fix it, how do you fix surface cracks in concrete to look like new?
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:09 pm to baldona
Looks like Plastic shrinkage cracks
Probably just seal the cracks but you would need to reseal every year or two. You may be able to top it with a microtop but the cracks will need to be properly sealed by the microtop contractor.
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how do you fix surface cracks in concrete to look like new?
Probably just seal the cracks but you would need to reseal every year or two. You may be able to top it with a microtop but the cracks will need to be properly sealed by the microtop contractor.
Posted on 7/2/19 at 2:32 pm to bayou choupique
thats from drying out too fast, not from too much water
new concrete should have been covered and wetted each day to let it dry out slowly in this intense heat.
and no that is not acceptable and make them dig it up and repour it, but as stated you have to take care to let it dry out slowly or it will crack again. any decent concrete guy knows this
new concrete should have been covered and wetted each day to let it dry out slowly in this intense heat.
and no that is not acceptable and make them dig it up and repour it, but as stated you have to take care to let it dry out slowly or it will crack again. any decent concrete guy knows this
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:40 pm to Hammertime
Use fiber reinforced concrete for driveways, sidewalks, and patios. It’s only $5 a cubic yard more in price but that’s offset by not paying for wire mesh. I used it on a 200’ driveway, sidewalk, and large patio and there isn’t one crack anywhere,
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:46 pm to Sidicous
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One of the houses also already needed the garage replaced as it was making circular cracks already chipping out chunks
Dollars to donuts, those chunks were where they braced the walls off the middle of your slab. Very common since there are no interior walls in the garage to brace off of.
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:18 pm to halleburton
Concrete cracks - all of it. It’ll all eventually crack. Subs will blame the concrete - concrete company will blame the subs. The GC won’t know who to blame. And - as someone said earlier - fly ash is a good substance - it Will slow down the initial cure time - which needs to happen in this type of heat. And - most cracks form in the first 24-48 hours of being placed. In all likelihood - the finishers probably didn’t put steel trowels on it before they broomed it. Adding water to the top before the finish is set up will cause dusting in the future.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:51 pm to halleburton
quote:While in most cases I would agree, this particular house was not a temp bracing thing. The main crack ran diagonally across the entire garage into the house slab, was deep and wide, about 4x or more the Op picture size. The circular cracking causing the chipping were an inch or more deep chips. There was 1 spot that it appeared I could pry out with minimal effort a chunk maybe deep enough to reveal dirt!
One of the houses also already needed the garage replaced as it was making circular cracks already chipping out chunks
Dollars to donuts, those chunks were where they braced the walls off the middle of your slab. Very common since there are no interior walls in the garage to brace off of.
This was a builder/realtor home. Lots of flash but poor materials and lots of evidence of shortcuts in construction. The neighboring home by the same guy was pulled off the market for problems with a retaining wall from shortcuts taken with the lot itself before building began.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:19 pm to Sidicous
update.... the project manager just emailed me back saying they going to replace it. he said nothing more or less. i think he knows i was not going to let it slide.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:06 pm to bayou choupique
quote:they will self heal.
Like the one guy said im not going to court over it, but it is crappy workmanship.
Posted on 7/4/19 at 8:55 am to bayou choupique
All concrete cracks....thus expansion joints to allow it to crack, “hopefully” , where you want it to.
Posted on 7/4/19 at 9:12 am to bayou choupique
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update.... the project manager just emailed me back saying they going to replace it. he said nothing more or less. i think he knows i was not going to let it slide.
That’s great news. Have the batch plant put on the batch tickets the max amount of water allowed to be added on site. Have the plant send a QC guy on site while they pour. They usually have guys on staff and they usually aren’t doing much. This will help you if shite goes side ways again. They can’t blame the finisher.
I’d look at using a mid range water reducer. You could also use Super P but it may be over kill. These additives are you $4-$8 a yard. They could also use fibers which would eliminate the welded wire mesh but I don’t think this was the reason for your cracks.
Lastly, get them to spray curing compound on the damn thing before they leave. Hell, you or your contractor can do it with a potato pump. It may cost you $100/150. They are not going to cure it properly because it’s expensive and a pain in the arse so the curing compound should do the trick.
This post was edited on 7/4/19 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:12 pm to bayou choupique
On the topic of concrete. I'm looking at possibly laying a patio down. would need about 3 yards of concrete but I'm not opposed to getting a little more if there is a minimum. Just curious to see if anyone has an idea of what the cost would be in the Lafayette area for around 3 yards.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 1:51 pm to bayou choupique
Those cracks are more than surface cracks. You have a problem. I would not accept this. Something is wrong.
Posted on 7/6/19 at 3:27 pm to bayou choupique
Wouldn’t accept.
There needs to be joints and mesh. Also a sin base of aggregate and sand hit with a compaction machine.
There needs to be joints and mesh. Also a sin base of aggregate and sand hit with a compaction machine.
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