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Wall outlets not working

Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:14 pm
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
3396 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:14 pm
While I was out of town my wife tells me our chest freezer in the garage stopped working It turns out that the wall plug isn’t working. I then found out today that the outlet on my front porch isn’t working either. All others plugs are working. I checked the breaker panel and also reset all GCFI outlets throughout the house just to make sure it wasn’t that. The two non-working outlets don’t share the same wall. Any ideas? Our house is only 4 years old.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20895 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:24 pm to
I know you said you checked them but it sure sounds like there’s a GFI tripped somewhere
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15098 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

also reset all GCFI outlets


You missed one somewhere
Posted by ADLSUNSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
3518 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:51 pm to
You can buy some tools to plug into a socket and you can trace the outlets to the box.

Also, check under the framing for a bathtub if it is a whirlpool or something, maybe one is hidden.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30007 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:31 pm to
chances are they are gfi as well

pretty sure anything in a garage needs to be gfi and i know anything on a porch has to be gfi as well

look real close at those outlets, some have reset buttons that blend in and arent easy to see

also a gfi may be bad and not sending power down the line but still have power at one half of that outlet
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78064 posts
Posted on 4/2/19 at 11:18 pm to
quote:


You missed one somewhere
this

Our house was added to on both ends so we have some seriously crazy GFCI circuits that span the entire house. You need a damn diagram to find the tripped outlet.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:52 am to
Had the same issue while back, one of my GFI were bad. Wouldn't reset.
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
898 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:12 am to
Re-check your breaker panel too. Hell flip them all off and back on. Did that last weekend for my father in law. Called and asked me to come check it, started searching for a gfi he missed but decided to KISS, re-checked each breaker and found one that you could barely tell was tripped.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30286 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:14 am to
quote:

While I was out of town my wife tells me our chest freezer in the garage stopped working It turns out that the wall plug isn’t working. I then found out today that the outlet on my front porch isn’t working either. All others plugs are working. I checked the breaker panel and also reset all GCFI outlets throughout the house just to make sure it wasn’t that. The two non-working outlets don’t share the same wall. Any ideas? Our house is only 4 years old.





Check your patio/back porch, entryway, any other outdoor outlets you can think of, kitchen countertop, island, and every bathroom outlet you have to see if one is not working. Also check your garage door opener outlet, if you have a battery backup opener it may still work for a little while.

Good luck.

ETA
quote:

re-checked each breaker and found one that you could barely tell was tripped.
good advice as well.

as is this
quote:

Had the same issue while back, one of my GFI were bad. Wouldn't reset.


If the gfci is bad that outlet probably is not working either.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 7:17 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:17 am to
Breakers going bad happens more often than people think
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9927 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

i checked the breaker panel and also reset all GCFI outlets throughout the house

i had a similar problem at my house. Check your exterior GFCI outlets. I was watering my grass and the springler was hitting the side of the house with the GFCI. I didnt think it was a big deal since it was enclosed in the plastic housing. Water/moisture can seep in through the top where it meets the bricks.

If it won't reset, then it needs to be replaced.
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
3396 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:32 pm to
I checked my exterior outlets and none of them appear to be GFCI.
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I checked my exterior outlets and none of them appear to be GFCI.



Do you have a GFCI breaker in your panel? Look for a breaker with a reset button on it. It may not look tripped but will need to be reset. Chances are you have one if the outdoor receptacles aren't GFCI.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Do you have a GFCI breaker in your panel?


This right here.

For some unknown reason the GFCI on my wife's jacuzzi tub is in the panel.

I hate everything about that tub.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11889 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 2:27 pm to
Code requires ground fault protection on any circuit that may be exposed to water/moisture, which is why you’ll see it in bathrooms, kitchens, and outdoors. Like others have said it’s not always an outlet and may be a ground fault breaker.

Also note that breakers or outlets that are worn out may become much more sensitive and trip more often. My home has 3 arc fault breakers that used to trip constantly and were getting worse. Swapped them out with AF breakers of the same ratings and no problems now.

EDIT: Regarding the OP, there is likely an upstream GFCI that you haven’t found. I would be surprised if an indoor GFCI protected a circuit that fed to outdoor outlets. It could also be the entire branch circuit fed from a GFCI breaker in the panel.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

I would be surprised if an indoor GFCI protected a circuit that fed to outdoor outlets.


I had this happen to me once. Bathroom GFCI's would not reset and I couldn't figure it out. Finally, found the outside outlet near the A/C condenser was bad. Replaced it, and bam! Everything works. I thought, no way those are on the same circuit, but they were.

ETA: Go around to your outside A/C unit and see if there's a ground fault plug near it that is tripped.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
3396 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 4:39 pm to
I’m going to get an electrician over here. It turns out all outside plugs and that one plug in my garage aren’t working. My other garage plugs are working. None of them are GFCI plugs. I checked all GFCI plugs in house and the panel and everything looks to be okay. I’m not sure why/how none of my outside plugs are GFCI but that is the case. It’s a head scratcher for sure.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4587 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:40 pm to
Just to add to the input from others. Contractors use the cheapest 15 amp GFIs, for a freezer, fridge, etc, you may need a 20 amp GFI to keep it from tripping.

As others have stated the circuit the GFIs are on can be very random.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5737 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:06 pm to
It sure sounds like a GFCI is tripped. Normally if I suspect a GFCI. I will go to everyone of them and trip them and then reset it. As they get older they will not reset although it appears to be. Have something simple like a blow dryer or something like that to plug in and make sure it reset
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5737 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:09 pm to
I bet half of the people on this board doesn’t know what KISS stands for
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